Gee after his first game back, didn't pickup 30 touches. Don't think Tappscott got many in his frst game either.

Or Sylvia...

The key is they PLAYED themselves into form, took more than 1 game.

This hysteria around Gys is RIDICULOUS.

Or Sylvia...

The key is they PLAYED themselves into form, took more than 1 game.

This hysteria around Gys is RIDICULOUS.

Relax stuie - I agree entirely with you and we can all see your frustration.

I think Gys is safe, but he'll need to do more from October to March.

I've mentioned this before, but a mate is friends with Melksham, and I'm told that when "The Weap" arrived at Essendon, the players were all given strict new diets.

On the very first day his task for lunch was eat 2 entire bbq chickens.

It was the of same ilk as diets for blokes like Phelps that you see in the paper around Olympics time.

Both need to eat a lot more, but I did notice a bit more definition creeping into the upper body of Gysberts today too.

It's fair to say I'm quite interested in his current status at the club, and watched him closely today.

Jose, from what I understand he went into pre season with a wrist or hand problem so wasn't able to do any upper body stuff, then with the ankle and broken jaw he hasn't had a clear run at this year at all.

I will hold judgement on him, I think he has the football smarts but let's see what a solid pre season can do for him. Hopefully he will play the year out now.

Been a month at Casey, named emergency in a team decimated with injuries, gets few touches against a crap team with players struggling to stand...

I simply had higher hopes for the boy this year.

And so are disappointed...

Been a month at Casey, named emergency in a team decimated with injuries, gets few touches against a crap team with players struggling to stand...

I simply had higher hopes for the boy this year.

And so are disappointed...

You need more realistic expectations then.

Gysberts is an interesting case study. One thing that you never know from afar is how much a player wants it. At 190cms and being an inside mid his bio reads really well. He has the traits to be a very valuable footballer, but 3 years in and I'd beat him in an arm wrestle.

His legs are fine, but I'm surprised by his small upper body and lack of stamina. He actually could be a really good player and should bulk up to be a big inside mid. And the clever ones are worth their weight in gold.

I hope he gets one more year to prove himself.

I hope he gets one more year to prove himself.

I have no doubt he will.

Let's hope I'm a good judge!

My take on it was he was ordinary....... but very undercooked in fitness due to injury and never having a pre-season.

But I saw enough today to say keep playing him as he's football smarts and adds a different mix in the middle - doesn't seem to make stupid clangers for someone so inexperienced either. Think of Jonesy after a dozen games! They take time.

I have no doubt he will.

Let's hope I'm a good judge!

There's no getting away from the fact that a first round draft pick, who is a mid, shouldn't be so peripheral even taking into account injuries. If I gave you a list of the midfield peers from his draft that are cemented in their teams best 22 you'd be horrified.

Why does he have spaghetti arms 3 years in ? He definitely needs to step up. How badly does he want it ?

That said, let's give him at least a week to once again feel the pace of AFL level.

Looks the goods, people are very critical around here for some reason........

I liked at one stage it was a stoppage on the members side wing, the ball hit the deck, he got in there, quick hands out to Trengove, who dished off to Jones i think it was who then left foot onto Blease's [censored]!

I like him a lot and doesn't look as fatigued running to the bench anymore which brought a massive smile to my face.

First game for the year after a broken jaw amongst several injuries he's had this year and punters are already putting the boots in.

Give it a rest.

Let him get use to the pace of the game again and fingers crossed for him, finish off the year strongly.

Just soak up the win and try to enjoy. A third year player trying to get back into seniors mode is the least of our worries.

First game for the year after a broken jaw amongst several injuries he's had this year and punters are already putting the boots in.

Give it a rest.

No, this attitude sh1ts me. Would you be happy if Jack Viney in his third year had spent virtually the entire season at Casey ? Gysberts had a decent preseason, but was on the outer from day one.

First round draft picks that are mids need to step up. Or they'll quickly realise how short an AFL career is.

I get sick of the excuses.

In the 3rd quarter Gys was on the overpaid hack Brennan and Gys looked as if he was going to drop dead of exhaustion! The gob was wide open and his arms were flailing about. Seriously thought he was seeing the light!

In the 3rd quarter Gys was on the overpaid hack Brennan and Gys looked as if he was going to drop dead of exhaustion! The gob was wide open and his arms were flailing about. Seriously thought he was seeing the light!

Funny I saw Blease doing similar

No, this attitude sh1ts me. Would you be happy if Jack Viney in his third year had spent virtually the entire season at Casey ? Gysberts had a decent preseason, but was on the outer from day one.

First round draft picks that are mids need to step up. Or they'll quickly realise how short is an AFL career.

I get sick of the excuses.

Get a clue mate. Then you'll have 1.

Has had a MAJORLY interrupted season, just played his first game for the year and wasn't BOG. MASSIVE OVER REACTION!

Rabble rabble rabble

No, this attitude sh1ts me. Would you be happy if Jack Viney in his third year had spent virtually the entire season at Casey ? Gysberts had a decent preseason, but was on the outer from day one.

First round draft picks that are mids need to step up. Or they'll quickly realise how short is an AFL career.

I get sick of the excuses.

What attitude? I am sick to death of how MFC has gone this year just as much as the next person. Doesn't mean I don't give latitude to those that might deserve a little.

I merely meant give him some patience. When I see a bloke play his first game in a the seniors after being broken all year I don't immediately think he's going to get have 20 touches and kick 5 goals for the game, unless he's Luke Hodge. But hey, maybe I am just getting a bit soft in my old age of 31 years.

FWIW, I can't wait for this season be over its been disgustingly woeful and depressing, but doesn't mean I'm not going to enjoy a win when its there, without realising that there is alot of work to do before we get where we belong.

I think it's fair to say that should they survive contact negs, trade week, etc some of these guys are in for a very big pre season by Misso to get a tank and build up a frame.

Edit... I like the idea of eating 2 roast choose for lunch. However if I did that, I would not have quite the same frame as a footballer! Probably like half a doz beers with it too.

No, this attitude sh1ts me. Would you be happy if Jack Viney in his third year had spent virtually the entire season at Casey ? Gysberts had a decent preseason, but was on the outer from day one.

First round draft picks that are mids need to step up. Or they'll quickly realise how short is an AFL career.

I get sick of the excuses.

You [censored]. Clearly no understanding of what he has been through this year. He couldn't hit the waits for the wrist injury, he then does an ankle in a practice game and loses the fitness that was being pounded into him, he then breaks his jaw and cannot undertake a weight or running program.

So lets recap, first year being drafted- all kids on very limited pre-seasons. Second year gets a bigger pre-season and plays some reasonably good games before injury cuts him down again. Third year has an extremely interupted pre-season and first half of actual season.

The kid has a good amount of talent. Has shown a very good work ethic to come back from two serious injuries this year and fight his way into the team.

He is rusty in his first game back and you lambast him.

I repeat. You [censored].

If ppl are sinking the boots into Gysberts, its because he has been in the system for a few years and is still built

like everyones stick thin 17 year old cousin.

I cannot believe in this day and age, with all the facitites and help in the world, that blokes like Gysberts and Morton

can't add bulk after years in the system, its nothing short of pathetic and goes a long way to pointing towards

our development - or lack thereof - of our youngsters.

Gotta be honest, this is the first I've heard of any preseason wrist/hand injury preventing him working on the weights.

If ppl are sinking the boots into Gysberts, its because he has been in the system for a few years and is still built

like everyones stick thin 17 year old cousin.

I cannot believe in this day and age, with all the facitites and help in the world, that blokes like Gysberts and Morton

can't add bulk after years in the system, its nothing short of pathetic and goes a long way to pointing towards

our development - or lack thereof - of our youngsters.

You need to read the post above yours - it makes sense.

No, this attitude sh1ts me. Would you be happy if Jack Viney in his third year had spent virtually the entire season at Casey ? Gysberts had a decent preseason, but was on the outer from day one.

First round draft picks that are mids need to step up. Or they'll quickly realise how short is an AFL career.

I get sick of the excuses.

this post also shows me you have never pulled on the boots in your life.. hack

If ppl are sinking the boots into Gysberts, its because he has been in the system for a few years and is still built

like everyones stick thin 17 year old cousin.

I cannot believe in this day and age, with all the facitites and help in the world, that blokes like Gysberts and Morton

can't add bulk after years in the system, its nothing short of pathetic and goes a long way to pointing towards

our development - or lack thereof - of our youngsters.

so what do you have to say about dustin fletcher?? tool

Gotta be honest, this is the first I've heard of any preseason wrist/hand injury preventing him working on the weights.

Pretty sure it's on the money Jose, picked it up at the end of last season.