The saddest part about all of this P Man, is that Brad scott is absolutely correct.

Tell me about it mate. I can't stand the smarmy [censored] under normal circumstances, but to hear him talk about a win against Melbourne as a given and know he's right....argh....

Even in the Daniher years Id often find it annoying that no one really respected us.

Thats when our Most Recent lack of respect started, we've had this lacking progressively over 40+ Years.

It's our fault, we allow it to go on. We accept mediocrity, & thats why we miss the Judds & G'Ablett Jnr's when they come along.

This is why we lose the Thompsons, Scully's, etc.

We turn our Nose @ legends like Sheedy & Matthews, why, to spite ourselves because we don't like them... they're too dirty. unwashed...

Thats when our Most Recent lack of respect started, we've had this lacking progressively over 40+ Years.

It's our fault, we allow it to go on. We accept mediocrity, & thats why we miss the Judds & G'Ablett Jnr's when they come along.

This is why we lose the Thompsons, Scully's, etc.

We turn our Nose @ legends like Sheedy & Matthews, why, to spite ourselves because we don't like them... they're too dirty. unwashed...

What a crock. Every team in the league would have lost those two. Watch the Pies lose someone big this year.

I also have noticed that the Ch7 promo "We love the footy" or something has random shots of playyers and supporters etc and while most teams colours are included one club is noticebly absent, although on reflection GWS may also be not there

Not inciting conspiracy but it does seem a bit of an omission that one of the oldest and original clubs doing everything to maintain the footy tradition is not even on the screen.

I would love to be corrected and someone can assure me that I am wrong

Therein lies part of the problem... just how much belief do the players really have?

I'll be there on Saturday, so I hope they find a spark (even though I have said that is probably the "kiss of death", I was at the Shanghai game when they managed to pull out an unlikely victory)...who knows, the smaller ground and the return of Jurrah (hopefully) may see them turn things around, although I have told my 10 year old to be prepared for loss :-)

I know they might only be 10 HT, but maybe feed them full of booze - it's the only way to get me through a game these days!

The saddest part about all of this P Man, is that Brad scott is absolutely correct.

Not that I disagree with Scott, but the Roos have had a mini rivilary with us for the past 3 or 4 years, based on our young lists. He'd really enjoy sticking it in at the moment. Another in the media to do so at the moment. I think we'll surpass the Roos in a year or two though. Call it arrogant. Call it blind faith. Our list has far more upside than the Kangaroos.

Not that I disagree with Scott, but the Roos have had a mini rivilary with us for the past 3 or 4 years, based on our young lists. He'd really enjoy sticking it in at the moment. Another in the media to do so at the moment. I think we'll surpass the Roos in a year or two though. Call it arrogant. Call it blind faith. Our list has far more upside than the Kangaroos.

Pretty one-sided rivalry, results wise.

In terms of young lists, the rivarly with the Tigers was/is of far more interest to me. Us suddenly looking like a medicore VFL side compared to them looking like a September AFL side has put an abrupt, hopefully temporary halt to that.

Not that I disagree with Scott, but the Roos have had a mini rivilary with us for the past 3 or 4 years, based on our young lists. He'd really enjoy sticking it in at the moment. Another in the media to do so at the moment. I think we'll surpass the Roos in a year or two though. Call it arrogant. Call it blind faith. Our list has far more upside than the Kangaroos.

Yes I would call it all of those.

And your last point is proberly just biased.

What prove do you have for that?

It surely is not because of the last 18 months performances.

Whatever measure you want to apply to the two sides the Roos win easily

I know they might only be 10 HT, but maybe feed them full of booze - it's the only way to get me through a game these days!

But I'll wager you're older than 10 :-) Still, I'll give it some consideration.... or maybe I'll do all of the drinking and he can be my designated driver.

But I'll wager you're older than 10 :-) Still, I'll give it some consideration.... or maybe I'll do all of the drinking and he can be my designated driver.

No mate not a good look.

Give him a good image and try to expand any positives

No mate not a good look.

Give him a good image and try to expand any positives

Yeah, I'm trying to think of ways I can get him to meet a few of his favourite players like Jurrah, Sylvia, Green, and Jones. He says he'd be too shy, but I think it would make his day.

Yeah, I'm trying to think of ways I can get him to meet a few of his favourite players like Jurrah, Sylvia, Green, and Jones. He says he'd be too shy, but I think it would make his day.

Ring the club hardtack Tell them you are struggling to keep your son interested in the Dees, wants to follow Manly.

Perhaps meeting a couple of players might get him back.

The worst they can say is no

Ring the club hardtack Tell them you are struggling to keep your son interested in the Dees, wants to follow Manly.

Perhaps meeting a couple of players might get him back.

The worst they can say is no

Good idea OD... may try, but i'll have to hope they don't make a connection between me and some of my tweets to them on game days :-)

And if he ever follows those Many silver-tails, I'll be disowning him!

Good idea OD... may try, but i'll have to hope they don't make a connection between me and some of my tweets to them on game days :-)

And if he ever follows those Many silver-tails, I'll be disowning him!

That is what half of AFL supporters says about us hardtack.

They do of course do one thing we don't do

i.e. WIN

What a crock. Every team in the league would have lost those two. Watch the Pies lose someone big this year.

Our own supporters keep asking why we can't attract quality players to our club, they just won't come here, except when we throw $quillions at them, & you say it's a crock...

Well we lose good players, but can't get them when we want them.

And I can tell you, other clubs players think were a joke.

Our own supporters keep asking why we can't attract quality players to our club, they just won't come here, except when we throw $quillions at them, & you say it's a crock...

Well we lose good players, but can't get them when we want them.

And I can tell you, other clubs players think were a joke.

Not for ling.

Not for ling.

For it?

For it?

Ha! I meant to write Not for long, but Ling would be a great assett.!!

Ha! I meant to write Not for long, but Ling would be a great assett.!!

You've eaten at 'Steve's' establishment too many times Wyl . Ya gettin' those vowels all wrong .

You've eaten at 'Steve's' establishment too many times Wyl . Ya gettin' those vowels all wrong .

Thankyou....