It's the tackling, or utter lack there of that confounded me.......

The technique is appalling.

Morton has talent but has just about done his dash with me.

Did Lyon tell us to wait until after the Tiger game.

I have a very strong gut feel that their is Something wrong with the players. They look unhappy about something, thats hanging over, maybe from last year?

They look like after the half time break, they just don't feel the love for the jumper?

i thought we were suppose to be the fittest a MFC team has ever been? could have fooled me!!

We might well be, but clearly that is still not nearly enough.......

I still do not see what Bate offers the side.

Nor Morton.

When we are getting flogged in the clearances do you think the rucks maybe could belt the ball away from those tigers players at their feet.

What a [censored] side we have, I feel for Neeld, we looked stuffed 3/4 way through the 2nd quarter

Surely they must be fit after such a demanding pre season? Have they had the stuffing taken out of them??

Melbourne is delicately poised as a football club both on field and off, we can not survive another full rebuild, and that's what we are looking at.

RIP MFC.

Contemplating a 16th finish is optimistic in the extreme given today's events

Very interesting avatar mate... Just perfect to top my $hit day off...

This is not a Neeld problem....This is what he has walked into.

A club that does not know how to succeed....If Neeld spoke to Malthouse about how far back we are...i hope the entire club listens to every word.

We have a bunch of AFL kids here who have almost killed their AFL careers....WHY?

What is the MFC doing that is completely wrong?

Can someone please clarify what selections we'll get if we finish 16th? Picks 3, 4 and about 11? Which pick for Viney?

As for the game, Howe, Jones, Watts and Clark looks like competent footballers. The rest don't, and that includes our captains.

I thought Mc Donald was reasonable given the stage he's at , Trengove should be roaming the forward line like Stevie Johnson he's not a midfield speedster, Grimes hasn't had a lot of football. Almost time for the whoesale changing of the guard. In Fitzpatrick, Davis, Blease, Tynan and bring them on as a group. Convinced there are a number of our older brigade who just cant cope with the committment required.

I don't think Neeld should get off totally. Why not put Clark in the ruck in third quarter? Jamar was useless. Do something as 8 goals are kicked against us.

I'm a member of the MFC and will remain a supporter. But I regret buying my son a membership and tying him to this lamentable team. I'm not going to be spoiling my weekends watching this dross anymore.

The game plan is there. Around the boundaries, force the contest.

The problem is the midfield. We can't catch a player, we let them spread and carry without a tackle to be seen, the zone is there but just breaks down against the run and handball

Against Brisbane I thought our problem was that we couldnt execute the brave new plan

Against West Coast I thought the new plan might not be a good plan

Now I see that we actually don't have a plan..... just 18 blokes at a time strolling around the park for a couple of hours (except when we have 19 blokes out there)

So what happened over the last year..cant even compete with Toiges.....just smashed everywhere....DISGRACEFUL

The game IS changing since the 3 + 1 interchange rules change of last year.

We must be Sure we understand where the game is heading, Before we chop any players this year.

From Footywire:

Low Rankings Ranked 16th in Kicks Per Game Ranked 18th in Handballs Per Game Ranked 18th in Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in Marks Per Game Ranked 16th in Points Per Game Ranked 18th in Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Kicks Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Handballs Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Marks Per Game Ranked 18th in least Opponent Points Per Game Ranked 14th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. Ranked 18th in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. Ranked 16th in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. Ranked 13th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff.

and this against two of last years bottom sides, unbelievable.

Morton has talent but has just about done his dash with me.

Did Lyon tell us to wait until after the Tiger game.

Morton has talent???

Are you sure?

I might have been following Melbourne since 1959, but after today, I won't die wondering...

Dunne needs to start.

Rivers is a worry at present.

Given his preparation, Morton was by no means not the worst.

Desperately need Sylvia.

This is not a Neeld problem....This is what he has walked into.

A club that does not know how to succeed....If Neeld spoke to Malthouse about how far back we are...i hope the entire club listens to every word.

We have a bunch of AFL kids here who have almost killed their AFL careers....WHY?

What is the MFC doing that is completely wrong?

Yeah wyl, its a good point, just what are we doing or not doing that is completely wrong??

I don't think Neeld should get off totally. Why not put Clark in the ruck in third quarter? Jamar was useless. Do something as 8 goals are kicked against us.

I'm a member of the MFC and will remain a supporter. But I regret buying my son a membership and tying him to this lamentable team. I'm not going to be spoiling my weekends watching this dross anymore.

No this is a player problem...Mark Neeld has been around some good strong teams....The players are at fault here.

They get paid for little output, when compared to other AFL sides.

From Footywire:

Low Rankings Ranked 16th in Kicks Per Game Ranked 18th in Handballs Per Game Ranked 18th in Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in Marks Per Game Ranked 16th in Points Per Game Ranked 18th in Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Kicks Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Handballs Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Marks Per Game Ranked 18th in least Opponent Points Per Game Ranked 14th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. Ranked 18th in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. Ranked 16th in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. Ranked 13th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff.

That's why they're on the bottom.

Play Tynan. Drop Rivers.

On a positive note, most of the backline did a reasonable job given the disparity in inside 50's. Vickery hardly touched the ball, Riewoldt had next to no influence - if we'd been told that before the game we'd have been thinking it was our day for sure. Unfortunately our midfield is easily the worst in the league!!

From Footywire:

Low Rankings Ranked 16th in Kicks Per Game Ranked 18th in Handballs Per Game Ranked 18th in Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in Marks Per Game Ranked 16th in Points Per Game Ranked 18th in Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Kicks Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Handballs Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Marks Per Game Ranked 18th in least Opponent Points Per Game Ranked 14th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. Ranked 18th in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. Ranked 16th in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. Ranked 13th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff.

and this against two of last years bottom sides, unbelievable.

Says it all really...

From Footywire:

Low Rankings Ranked 16th in Kicks Per Game Ranked 18th in Handballs Per Game Ranked 18th in Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in Marks Per Game Ranked 16th in Points Per Game Ranked 18th in Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Kicks Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Handballs Per Game Ranked 17th in least Opponent Disposals Per Game Ranked 16th in least Opponent Marks Per Game Ranked 18th in least Opponent Points Per Game Ranked 14th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game Ranked 13th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. Ranked 18th in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. Ranked 16th in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. Ranked 17th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. Ranked 13th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff.

and this against two of last years bottom sides, unbelievable.

Oh so its not that bad after all.

This is not a Neeld problem....This is what he has walked into.

A club that does not know how to succeed....If Neeld spoke to Malthouse about how far back we are...i hope the entire club listens to every word.

We have a bunch of AFL kids here who have almost killed their AFL careers....WHY?

What is the MFC doing that is completely wrong?

I ticked "like" to this, but there is not much to "like" about today's game and the reasons why, we are, where we are...

On a positive note, most of the backline did a reasonable job given the disparity in inside 50's. Vickery hardly touched the ball, Riewoldt had next to no influence - if we'd been told that before the game we'd have been thinking it was our day for sure. Unfortunately our midfield is easily the worst in the league!!

I'm sorry, but there are NO positives, and Bartram was part of that backline and was possibly our WORST player.