The MFC must go to pains to continue to clarify that there is none and will be no corelation between events surrounding Davey On the field and events OFF the field.

Teams are selected on the basis of form ( and fit ) ...and this only

Unfortunately BB there is nothing they can say that will prove what you require.

If he is dropped this week in the eyes of most people it will mean the MFC does not believe him.

The MFC has no choice but to play him this week.

Hell is it really going to effect the result in Perth.

Not long ago I would have been at the front of the barricade with you.

But this bloody club has almost worn me out.

My enthusiasm is waning.

The Night is Darkest right before Dawn.

Sometimes a hard emotional shake up can wake a thing from its Emotional Hibernation. Just like a defibrillator can jolt a Heart back into a working rhythm.

I will edit my comments as your are correct. My issue is not only did Mifsud release details of a private conversation, he released it an highly inappropriate person - a person who has the power ( and used it ) to disseminate any information he sees fit.

Small nit pick on my part nutbean I hope you will excuse me.

I am far from being a journalist but these commentators who pretend they are journalists have got up my nose for some time.

The Night is Darkest right before Dawn.

Sometimes a hard emotional shake up can wake a thing from its Emotional Hibernation. Just like a defibrillator can jolt a Heart back into a working rhythm.

Oh dee-luded please do not mention that "d" word it may be in my near future

The Night is Darkest right before Dawn.

Sometimes a hard emotional shake up can wake a thing from its Emotional Hibernation. Just like a defibrillator can jolt a Heart back into a working rhythm.

Our Dawn has denied any involvement in either the Darkness or Night issues

If people think legal action is a tough, or effective, way of dealing with this, they have not spent much time with lawyers or courts. Demetriou's repeated suggestions that Neeld and the MFC take legal action is nothing more than his own vengeful view of Thomas.

I agree, & I hope Vlad is not trying to setup Thomas who is nothing more than a message boy in all this. And I hope Mif didn't deliberately induce the message boy deliberately to set him up. I know long bow, but a target they would love his bust on their wall.

Get back to the Real Issue here. Someone inside, went outside with damaging stories.

Small nit pick on my part nutbean I hope you will excuse me.

I am far from being a journalist but these commentators who pretend they are journalists have got up my nose for some time.

All is good - I could have done worse - I could have called Akermanis a journalist.

Unfortunately BB there is nothing they can say that will prove what you require.

If he is dropped this week in the eyes of most people it will mean the MFC does not believe him.

The MFC has no choice but to play him this week.

Hell is it really going to effect the result in Perth.

Probably wont affect the Perth result as you suggest but we ( as a club) need to wrest control away frombeiing intimidated by outside interests.

Id ( as a club ) say exactly that/this. Aaron hasnt been picked to play this week purely on form. We as a club support him as a player as we do allour players but we will not be dictated to or governed by the populace. Form is form, selection is selection. etc etc.

We should not shirk this but come out on the front foot and set the agenda according to our view of things.

I agree, & I hope Vlad is not trying to setup Thomas who is nothing more than a message boy in all this. And I hope Mif didn't deliberately induce the message boy deliberately to set him up. I know long bow, but a target they would love his bust on their wall.

Get back to the Real Issue here. Someone inside, went outside with damaging stories.

Vlad doesnt have a lot of love for Thomas....keep that in mind.

Theres a game here

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/live-stream-melbourne-demons-coach-mark-neeld-responds-to-latest-afl-race-row-on-wednesday-morning/story-e6frf3e3-1226318213274

Fox sports streaming Neeld's response at 9.45. In class so can't listen to the radio, will be checking here for updates.

Oh dee-luded please do not mention that "d" word it may be in my near future

You'll be right mate. Life goes on beyond all this anyway. And I'm sure we'll all meet again.

But first we've got things to achieve, OD.

We've got to put our house in Order, so lets Not letup until we can see those incumbents, start to be seen to be doing the Right stuff.... No Fluff, we want the real Huff & Puff, with meaning behind it.

Quoting Caroline Wilson.

"His(Davey) meetings with MIfsud over the summer are reported to have conveyed some disenchantment with the new coaching and training regime."

His body language and performance screams worse than that - total disilliusionment I would say.

Lift your game flash. You are there to do a job. Do it.

QUOTES from the Hun

Asked yesterday why the source had fabricated the story, Mifsud said: "It was a number of weeks ago now and it was in a broader context in regards to where he's at within his current life, the demands that have been elevated at the Melbourne Football Club and a whole range of other personal circumstances which I'm not going to go into.

"And I think he acknowledged last night that he'd put a series of conversations together to articulate what, at that point's time, I was very clear on what he was saying but subsequently he's now denying."

So, not only does he pass this confidential information on to Thomas, he further inflames the situation by telling us about Davey's private life and he dislike of the training regime. FCS shut the F up you moron.

Any of us would get sacked for the same indiscretion. Double and triple standards. Poor matt Rendell!

Probably wont affect the Perth result as you suggest but we ( as a club) need to wrest control away frombeiing intimidated by outside interests.

Id ( as a club ) say exactly that/this. Aaron hasnt been picked to play this week purely on form. We as a club support him as a player as we do allour players but we will not be dictated to or governed by the populace. Form is form, selection is selection. etc etc.

We should not shirk this but come out on the front foot and set the agenda according to our view of things.

Of course all that assumes they were going to drop him.

But I still think the MFC has no choice but to play him.

What is one week in the MFC's 2012 season

Of course all that assumes they were going to drop him.

But I still think the MFC has no choice but to play him.

What is one week in the MFC's 2012 season

its all about dogs and tails...... to me.

So Aaaron did or did not have a sook to Misfud about the new coaching staff?

That's what I wish to know. If he did, then all that proves is that Davey is a lazy footballer who was unhappy that he was being made to work hard.

The side issue or main issue in this case is what Misfud did with the information. He should have never, under no circumstances, leaked info to anyone in the media before internally dealing with the matter. He is f$ed the integrity of his role, the AFL and the game and thus should be given the bullet. Am I missing something here?

I can't get this live stream overseas, can you keep me updates

Many people have had a new boss who instills change and suddenly you find yourself one peg further down on someones list. Or you have that perception.

It is easy to slag off to some-one you trust and sometimes it comes full circle.

Most of the time the circle gets completed once you have established a working relationship and got on-board. You privately regret the conversation.

It sounds bad but it is common. It is unfortunate but this is not a disaster and the player should be given the opportunity to put this behind him.

It will blow over in a week.

The biggest concern with this whole situation is that it is starting to appear as if this story has been bubbling away for months.

Surely an organisation such as the AFL should have proactively pursued this before it became public knowledge.

How hard would it be to consult with the club & effected parties before it hit the fan.

Mifsud is surely now totally conflicted in his role.

And AFL HQ has the aroma of a steaming dog pile.

I can't get this live stream overseas, can you keep me updates

nothing on yet about Melb.

His body language and performance screams worse than that - total disilliusionment I would say.

Lift your game flash. You are there to do a job. Do it.

Been evident for a long time. Only need watch the replay of the St Kilda game from last season. He was mighty [censored] of then and nothings changed. Don't know what his beef was then but the only constant since has been his fat long term contract and weak contributions. Has this guy become uncoachable?

Quoting Caroline Wilson.

"His(Davey) meetings with MIfsud over the summer are reported to have conveyed some disenchantment with the new coaching and training regime."

Jackie let me tell you a liitle story

A long long time ago when i started my first job i was sent to sydney for an intensive 13 week training course

We were each assigned a counsellor

The only time I had contact with him was for a weekly review session

He was a useless drip and the first 8 meetings went asthis - him: well how are things going? - me: yeah fine, no problems.- him: ok see you next week.

I started to feel I should at least contribute something to our meetings so on the next meeting - me: yeah fine but the course is getting tougher now. - him: really? well hang in there. see you next week.

The remaining meetings went as the first ones

At the end of the course he wrote a report which said that I "struggled at times". Well I hit the roof and refused to sign off and got the report rewritten when he admitted it was because of that one comment.

I believe it is possible Aaron may have similarly made some innocuous comment about the training being a huge change in intensity (no surprise there) etc etc which mifsud has misconstrued/misconstructed.

It may be as simple as that

As for the group meetings stuff, again that could have been misconstrued. Its quite possible that someone had a discussion with the indigenous guys about what was going on with the jurrah situation when everything was unclear. heck they may have approached mgmt themselves and had an adhoc discussion. Again this could have been misconstrued esp if a certain person has an agenda.

Things are rarely as they seem if you look at things through preconceived attitudes

nothing on yet about Melb.

Has not started yet.

SEN is doing live

Hope we are not this slow to start on Saturday.

Jackie let me tell you a liitle story

A long long time ago when i started my first job i was sent to sydney for an intensive 13 week training course

We were each assigned a counsellor

The only time I had contact with him was for a weekly review session

He was a useless drip and the first 8 meetings went asthis - him: well how are things going? - me: yeah fine, no problems.- him: ok see you next week.

I started to feel I should at least contribute something to our meetings so on the next meeting - me: yeah fine but the course is getting tougher now. - him: really? well hang in there. see you next week.

The remaining meetings went as the first ones

At the end of the course he wrote a report which said that I "struggled at times". Well I hit the roof and refused to sign off and got the report rewritten when he admitted it was because of that one comment.

I believe it is possible Aaron may have similarly made some innocuous comment about the training being a huge change in intensity (no surprise there) etc etc which mifsud has misconstrued/misconstructed.

It may be as simple as that

As for the group meetings stuff, again that could have been misconstrued. Its quite possible that someone had a discussion with the indigenous guys about what was going on with the jurrah situation when everything was unclear. heck they may have approached mgmt themselves and had an adhoc discussion. Again this could have been misconstrued esp if a certain person has an agenda.

Things are rarely as they seem if you look at things through preconceived attitudes

That is my fear.

Aaron, as soft and inconsistent he can be on field, is a very solid citizen and loyal Demon.

I don't want to burn him at the stake for an embellishment told by Mifsud at an AFL Executive meeting to impress his masters and further his own agenda.