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And to those who are wondering what CS is doing with his time, i'm sure he will announce the release of a new, limited edition guernsey sometime soon.



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I get more and more frustrated at Schwaby's appearance on Demonland a week or so ago by the day.

I mean, this guy has the nerve to say that he's happy none of us are taking care of getting sponsors...meanwhile he himself can't get a FOJ sponsor?

Guest Thomo
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I get more and more frustrated at Schwaby's appearance on Demonland a week or so ago by the day.

I mean, this guy has the nerve to say that he's happy none of us are taking care of getting sponsors...meanwhile he himself can't get a FOJ sponsor?

Agree with this. I thought that Schwab was a bit of a smart arse with that comment. He should be apologising for failing to get a sponsor, not mocking those that pay his wage. It came across as unprofessional to me.


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I get more and more frustrated at Schwaby's appearance on Demonland a week or so ago by the day.

I mean, this guy has the nerve to say that he's happy none of us are taking care of getting sponsors...meanwhile he himself can't get a FOJ sponsor?

You could get a $1m from someone tomorrow Cudi.

Schwab is obviously looking for a little more, and not just in dollar terms.

It's frustrating, slightly embarrassing, but Schwab has credits from the 'double the previous highest sponsorhip' $2m from Energywatch.

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Agree with this. I thought that Schwab was a bit of a smart arse with that comment. He should be apologising for failing to get a sponsor, not mocking those that pay his wage. It came across as unprofessional to me.

He shouldn't be apologising. And he isn't unprofessional for being on here. Do we want engagement with fans?

Yes? Well, stop damning the engagement due to one off-hand arrogant remark. It happened to be true, we would make poor decisions, and Cameron is a very confident person.

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I get more and more frustrated at Schwaby's appearance on Demonland a week or so ago by the day.

I mean, this guy has the nerve to say that he's happy none of us are taking care of getting sponsors...meanwhile he himself can't get a FOJ sponsor?

I find this attitude amusing.


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The problem that Schwab has at the moment is that we've signed a record BOJ sponsorship. The Energywatch sponsorship is over and above the combined value of the previous major sponsors. So why is that a problem? By signing a FOJ sponsor just for the sake of having one would be undermining and undervaluing Energywatch's investment. A slap in the face.

And we should be looking for a long term sponsor, not just a stop gap, short term sponsor. Do you sign a 1 year $1 million dollar deal now, or could you wait until mid season to find someone to sign 3 years @$1.5 million per year.

Schwab is right to hold on

Guest Dr Who
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Agree with this. I thought that Schwab was a bit of a smart arse with that comment. He should be apologising for failing to get a sponsor, not mocking those that pay his wage. It came across as unprofessional to me.

I find this opinion as par for the course for many around here - Its goes to the very core of our real problem - but who in reality has the "problem"?

I found CS comment refreshing & straight forward. However, I've said it elsewhere - can we handle the truth - sorry not today at least.


Guest Thomo
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He shouldn't be apologising. And he isn't unprofessional for being on here. Do we want engagement with fans?

Yes? Well, stop damning the engagement due to one off-hand arrogant remark. It happened to be true, we would make poor decisions, and Cameron is a very confident person.

The MFC PR division at it again. I wonder sometimes rpfc is you are on the payroll, you are always very quick to hose down any negative talk about the club.

Engagement with fans is great, being a smart arse while doing it is not. When members have correctly pointed out that the club has a recent history of being poor at attracting and retaining sponsors, I do not think it is profession to make smart arse comments.

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The MFC PR division at it again. I wonder sometimes rpfc is you are on the payroll, you are always very quick to hose down any negative talk about the club.

Here we go again, Thomo.

Find an argument and expand on it, tell us about it, then quickly outline what you have said - that is how you debate.

Constantly telling me I am biased isn't an argument - it's a crutch. And a lazy one.

Engagement with fans is great, being a smart arse while doing it is not. When members have correctly pointed out that the club has a recent history of being poor at attracting and retaining sponsors, I do not think it is profession to make smart arse comments.

He is entitled to be a smart arse, weeks after signing a $6m dollar deal with Energy Watch.

It's a humbling act - for a CEO to post on fan forum - but you can't seem to see that whatsoever.

Guest Thomo
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Here we go again, Thomo.

Find an argument and expand on it, tell us about it, then quickly outline what you have said - that is how you debate.

Constantly telling me I am biased isn't an argument - it's a crutch. And a lazy one.

He is entitled to be a smart arse, weeks after signing a $6m dollar deal with Energy Watch.

It's a humbling act - for a CEO to post on fan forum - but you can't seem to see that whatsoever.

I have never said that I have a problem with the CEO posting on this forum, I praised him for it. If you are struggling in a debate to push your agenda, you need to move on, just give up, there is no need to make things up, it just makes you look stupid.

Back to the topic, the job is only half done, so he is not entitled to be a smart arse, and as a professional engaging with the members he never should.

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I have never said that I have a problem with the CEO posting on this forum, I praised him for it. If you are struggling in a debate to push your agenda, you need to move on, just give up, there is no need to make things up, it just makes you look stupid.

Back to the topic, the job is only half done, so he is not entitled to be a smart arse, and as a professional engaging with the members he never should.

Jesus Thomo, get over it! You are making a mountain over a mole hill on one CS comment (that was probably warranted anyway)

One can only come to the conclusion that you have an agenda with CS. If so at least confine yourself to real issues and avoid the pettifogging and exaggeration

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Jesus Thomo, get over it! You are making a mountain over a mole hill on one CS comment (that was probably warranted anyway)

One can only come to the conclusion that you have an agenda with CS. If so at least confine yourself to real issues and avoid the pettifogging and exaggeration

DC I have never heard that word before, had to look it up in the dictionary.

Other wise YES


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We have a habit of attracting a lot of media attention. Perfect for sponsors.

So will this be a new form of tanking? Who cares about draft picks, sponsorships are where it's at

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One can only come to the conclusion that you have an agenda with CS. If so at least confine yourself to real issues and avoid the pettifogging and exaggeration

I would think that the "issue" Thomo has with CS's professionalism, is the fact that he clearly was one of the people CS was referring to with his comment about being happy that some of those on this site aren't responsible for seeking out sponsors; Thomo has simply taken umbridge at that.

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Well, I'm quite happy for us to give Reach the benefit of FOJ for the year regardless.

Quite a nice tribute under the circumstances.


Posted

I would think that the "issue" Thomo has with CS's professionalism, is the fact that he clearly was one of the people CS was referring to with his comment about being happy that some of those on this site aren't responsible for seeking out sponsors; Thomo has simply taken umbridge at that.

of course he has hardtack, but i'm getting sick of his endless repetition, hence my post. Thommo needs to grow a thicker skin

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of course he has hardtack, but i'm getting sick of his endless repetition, hence my post. Thommo needs to grow a thicker skin

You will get no argument from me on those points.


Guest Thomo
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of course he has hardtack, but i'm getting sick of his endless repetition, hence my post. Thommo needs to grow a thicker skin

If you are sick of the repetition of hearing that the club has failed in getting a FOJ sponsor and someone needs to be held responsible, either the club needs to employ someone who knows how to attract and retain sponsors, or you need to stop reading this thread.

Guest Dr Who
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If you are sick of the repetition of hearing that the club has failed in getting a FOJ sponsor and someone needs to be held responsible, either the club needs to employ someone who knows how to attract and retain sponsors, or you need to stop reading this thread.

Now we are getting somewhere. So that begs the real questions. Who is the "someone"? Who needs to be held "responsible"?

Guest Thomo
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Now we are getting somewhere. So that begs the real questions. Who is the "someone"? Who needs to be held "responsible"?

I'm not sure, the board should be looking at this.

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If you are sick of the repetition of hearing that the club has failed in getting a FOJ sponsor and someone needs to be held responsible, either the club needs to employ someone who knows how to attract and retain sponsors, or you need to stop reading this thread.

I think I'll stop reading this thread.

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If you are sick of the repetition of hearing that the club has failed in getting a FOJ sponsor and someone needs to be held responsible, either the club needs to employ someone who knows how to attract and retain sponsors, or you need to stop reading this thread.

no no thommo, don't move the goalposts

i very specifically told you to get over the repetition of the "smart arse" (so called) comments complaint of yours

i never mentioned FOJS...............but nice try


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