Our serious lack of on field leaderrship has got me thinking. Do we go to the drastic scenario of asking Junior to come back to the club as a player to give us some leadership?

I know it sounds stupid but Essendon did it with Tim Watson and Paul Salmon and with a fair bit of success also. Granted they weren't as far back as us but it may well be worth considering???

I know Sydney did it with Lockett and it was a disaster but drastic times call for drastic measures.

At this stage I'm looking for new coach, new captain and some more on field leaders, Junior coming back to the club I think should at least be considered. I'd even consider getting as drastic as trying to convince Brett Kirk to come out of retirement and play a season with us if it would help us!

No .

Junior is 35 .

We need a coach that wont tolerate anything like this .

This is all karma for the way he was treated anyhow. Absoutely disgraceful.

He played well last week in the VAFA. nearly won the game himself but we were too strong.

He played well last week in the VAFA. nearly won the game himself but we were too strong.

I wouldn't be surprised if GWS were strongly considering him. Sheedy was/is a big fan of him, and they will need some good, senior leaders.

He probably also has a good relationship with number 31.

Would have probably pulled the plug after this year anyway so no.

But at least he'll be in the first few lines of "reasons why it went wrong" lists forever.

He will be 35..

No.

Our serious lack of on field leaderrship has got me thinking. Do we go to the drastic scenario of asking Junior to come back to the club as a player to give us some leadership?

I know it sounds stupid but Essendon did it with Tim Watson and Paul Salmon and with a fair bit of success also. Granted they weren't as far back as us but it may well be worth considering???

I know Sydney did it with Lockett and it was a disaster but drastic times call for drastic measures.

At this stage I'm looking for new coach, new captain and some more on field leaders, Junior coming back to the club I think should at least be considered. I'd even consider getting as drastic as trying to convince Brett Kirk to come out of retirement and play a season with us if it would help us!

Yes but NO. Yes to getting him back around the club in some official paid capacity, but No, it's too late now for him to play. This would have been his last year of footy.

Couldn't possibly at 35 but has he expressed an interest in being involved at AFL club level? He could be a development coach or assistant coach

Sure, then put Ox, Robbo and Neita in the forward line, Flower and Barassi in the center and Ingerson in the backline. Sure to win the EJ Whitten game...

Couldn't possibly at 35 but has he expressed an interest in being involved at AFL club level? He could be a development coach or assistant coach

I heard he was already doing such a role with GWS.

Couldn't possibly at 35 but has he expressed an interest in being involved at AFL club level? He could be a development coach or assistant coach

Shrewd thinking dee_star. Jnr's AFL playing days are over, but he may have much to offer in such a role.

Here me out with this. Brad miller was a great clubman. He was a fantastic off field presence at the club and although he wasn't the most talented bloke on field he would try his guts out and he would protect and stick up for team mates ! Take the chapman v dunn incident on the weekend not one player helped dunn out ! FFS I would have pulled chapman of him ! Our tam is soft and unwilling. This was typified for me in the Brisbane game where jurrah was being pushed round, greeny was running to the interchange saw it and just kept going! I woul have split the pack apart before coming off ..... And that's our captain .... Enough said

to be fair, nicholson helped. He was holding Chapman's jumper by the cuff from behind, which I was though was fairly ballsy of the young fella. more ballsy than nathan jones anyway, who watched the whole thing and let it slide.

Here me out with this. Brad miller was a great clubman. He was a fantastic off field presence at the club and although he wasn't the most talented bloke on field he would try his guts out and he would protect and stick up for team mates ! Take the chapman v dunn incident on the weekend not one player helped dunn out ! FFS I would have pulled chapman of him ! Our tam is soft and unwilling. This was typified for me in the Brisbane game where jurrah was being pushed round, greeny was running to the interchange saw it and just kept going! I woul have split the pack apart before coming off ..... And that's our captain .... Enough said

I think we have missed the trio of Miller, Mcdonald and Bruce more than most think.

For the exact reasons you list.

to be fair, nicholson helped. He was holding Chapman's jumper by the cuff from behind, which I was though was fairly ballsy of the young fella. more ballsy than nathan jones anyway, who watched the whole thing and let it slide.

it seems a large number let a lot of things slide.

I know I am from another era but in the second half why did we not just play one on one football.

yes I know it is not played that way these days.

to be fair, nicholson helped. He was holding Chapman's jumper by the cuff from behind, which I was though was fairly ballsy of the young fella. more ballsy than nathan jones anyway, who watched the whole thing and let it slide.

Tottally agree! At the review of the game I hope Viney pauses it when jones looks over and does nothing. I have lost a lot of respect for jones.