I won't do a daily countdown because they can get boring, but only 28 days to our Nab cup start.

WJ any info on where Waylen Mansen ended up after missing selection in the drafts.

Also I am keen to see how Hall goes with the Lions as he was another that many including myself wanted rookied.

Edited January 27, 201214 yr by Redleg

WJ any info on where Waylen Mansen ended up after missing selection in the drafts.

Very little known about him since the drafts. His NTFL team Waratah has only won one game since winning the first six on the trot and that was against chopping block Darwin. This has occurred after Manson, Fevola and Pettifer stopped playing. I suppose it's what happens when you have mercenaries who aren't totally dedicated to the cause at a club.

I suppose it's what happens when you have mercenaries who aren't totally dedicated to the cause at a club.

Do I detect a "go" at a very new AFL club North of the Murray and West of Sydney?

Don't tell me the AFL's expanding to Broken Hill?

Do I detect a "go" at a very new AFL club North of the Murray and West of Sydney?

No - its just a figment of your imagination.

I am not a real fan of figments, I prefer grapes and berries.

I'll just mention a couple of runners. No Dispute @ 5.57 Thursday at Ballarat and Le Beau Cheval @ 3.00 Thursday Hawkesbury.

I'll just mention a couple of runners. No Dispute @ 5.57 Thursday at Ballarat and Le Beau Cheval @ 3.00 Thursday Hawkesbury.

Le Beau Cheval any relation to Vite Cheval - Good horse in its day

I'll just mention a couple of runners. No Dispute @ 5.57 Thursday at Ballarat and Le Beau Cheval @ 3.00 Thursday Hawkesbury.

Based on this tipster's past record it might be a good idea to avoid both like the plague.

Based on this tipster's past record it might be a good idea to avoid both like the plague.

Hahaha!! "Walk Away..."

Whilst on horse racing. Redleg, do you give any hope for any runner against Black Caviar as she steps up to the 1400m in the Futurity Stakes and Orr Stakes and perhaps end Black Caviar's run of 18 wins ?

Pinker Pinker, I think is in the Futurity Stakes ...

Having lunch at Wong's right now Szechuan Chicken. The thankyou count is at around 11 so far...and have only just ordered.

Le Beau Cheval any relation to Vite Cheval - Good horse in its day

Not that I know.

Whilst on horse racing. Redleg, do you give any hope for any runner against Black Caviar as she steps up to the 1400m in the Futurity Stakes and Orr Stakes and perhaps end Black Caviar's run of 18 wins ?

Pinker Pinker, I think is in the Futurity Stakes ...

On her disclosed form she would have no difficulty at the 1400. Given she wins hands and heels easily I would imagine that unless she is not herself or is injured she would win. I don't say that however would necessarily be the case over longer trips.

She has never felt the whip and has hardly been tested and has never been pushed out to win, but rather always eased down. She accelerates in a flash without effort and puts 4-5 lengths on the field effortlessly. She is a sensational sprinter and one of the best ever in the world. We are privileged to have seen her.

I'll just mention a couple of runners. No Dispute @ 5.57 Thursday at Ballarat and Le Beau Cheval @ 3.00 Thursday Hawkesbury.

No Dispute just won. Other meeting was abandoned. Noble Game at Sale 2200m on Sunday.

No Dispute just won. Other meeting was abandoned. Noble Game at Sale 2200m on Sunday.

Apologies for doubting you or was it another of those two horse races?

Was the jockey George Santana?

Green and Moloney must be extremely disappointed. Our most passionate player, who just happens to be the current club B & F doesn't even make the leadership group of 8. I can see some resentment against the new Coach.

Green and Moloney must be extremely disappointed. Our most passionate player, who just happens to be the current club B & F doesn't even make the leadership group of 8. I can see some resentment against the new Coach.

Last year means nothing to the new coach, & nor it should.

Last year means nothing to the new coach, & nor it should.

I have no problems with the Coach stamping his mark on the club as it is his head on the block. I just point out there are going to be a few boys who will be upset with his call.

Green and Moloney must be extremely disappointed. Our most passionate player, who just happens to be the current club B & F doesn't even make the leadership group of 8. I can see some resentment against the new Coach.

Tittles don't mean anything when your out on the ground. Beamer will always give 100% and will probably see it as a challenge.

I just point out there are going to be a few boys who will be upset with his call.

So as a coach, do you select players for their leadership qualities, or because they'll be upset if they miss out?

So as a coach, do you select players for their leadership qualities, or because they'll be upset if they miss out?

Is that a serious question? I was just pointing out that we will have some unhappy players in the group. If that unhappiness manifests itself in form or attitude or behaviour it will need addressing, that is my point.

Green and Moloney must be extremely disappointed. Our most passionate player, who just happens to be the current club B & F doesn't even make the leadership group of 8. I can see some resentment against the new Coach.

By the same criteria Rivers would also be weeping into his weetbix. No one's saying much about him though.

Edit: point being that 2011 leaders failed.

By the same criteria Rivers would also be weeping into his weetbix. No one's saying much about him though.

Don't forget Flash, who carries the indigenous leadership hopes and was suggested by many to be Captain last year.