I can see us resting a few players in the opening NAB cup and playing all of the rookies that are fit.

I hope not Redleg I would like to see win a few games.

On top of my desire to start the season well is the need to get the max. number of members on board.

To achieve this we need some good results in the Nab cup.

Particulary the first week.

Only 2 good results will do.

Black Caviar, what can you say? Possibly the best this country has produced. Untouched and runs them off their feet. I feel privileged to have seen her run. Wow. I just feel so excited and it gives me hope of getting another good horse one day, one that I can think about all day, in between thinking about my grand daughter and the MFC.

Truly was awesome, wasn't it ? Privileged to see such a racehorse just so dominant against very good horses. Looks as though Moody will enter her in the Lightning Stakes (1000m) this weekend, before the Futurity the week after (back to 1400m). She'll have 20 wins on end before she leaves the country for her stint overseas.

Brained them over 1400m on Saturday. Makes you wonder if she can go 2040m around MV.

Brained them over 1400m on Saturday. Makes you wonder if she can go 2040m around MV.

Glen Boss thinks so.

There is a baby possum on my window ledge staring at me as I write this. I am going to give him an offer to go to Blacktown and join GWS. I hear the possums do really well up there.

On BC, I find it amazing that she's so quick that she's actually pulled up by the jockey so that she 'only' wins by a few lengths.

Oh, and the fact that her win was the slowest Orr Stakes time in a few years (as reported on the weekend).

We are nearly there. Nab cup starts this week. Fox Footy too. Dees Intra club friday. Discussion on the game straight after on Demonland. Here we go again.

How long to the national draft?

How long to the national draft?

About 9 months. I can't find the date. May not be fixed yet. Wonder if we will activate our picks. I think we will.

About 9 months. I can't find the date. May not be fixed yet. Wonder if we will activate our picks. I think we will.

So do I.

The countdown clock to the draft that I created for WJ/Redleg is somewhere on this thread that is 43 pages long...

So do I.

The countdown clock to the draft that I created for WJ/Redleg is somewhere on this thread that is 43 pages long...

There will be no draft countdown until after the season is over.

I can see us resting a few players in the opening NAB cup and playing all of the rookies that are fit.

After hearing Neeld yesterday Redleg I think you are right.

The things he said suggested to me that for the Dees the nab cup was more about testing plans and players than winning.

So on that basis I thinks rounds 2 and 3 will be wipe outs.

The pain could start in early march this year.

So do I.

The countdown clock to the draft that I created for WJ/Redleg is somewhere on this thread that is 43 pages long...

And still going strong!

After hearing Neeld yesterday Redleg I think you are right.

The things he said suggested to me that for the Dees the nab cup was more about testing plans and players than winning.

So on that basis I thinks rounds 2 and 3 will be wipe outs.

The pain could start in early march this year.

You have given up earlier than usual this year O.D.

As Homer once said

"If you can't win-don't try"

Simpson that is.

Not the author of the Illiad .

This thing has got to be coming close to the longest thread in DL history, surely!

I mean, there's more posts than there were cents in the price of bananas...

After hearing Neeld yesterday Redleg I think you are right.

The things he said suggested to me that for the Dees the nab cup was more about testing plans and players than winning.

So on that basis I thinks rounds 2 and 3 will be wipe outs.

The pain could start in early march this year.

Other clubs will be in the same boat as us. Pies in round 2 might also be fairly under strength. This format is much better and fairer as you get to play in front of your fans a couple of teams on decnt grounds and you can try things out. This way you go all the way until the GF at least in the NAB cup and you can see it live or at least on TV. Don't think we really care where we finish as long as we get used to the game plan and try out a few new players.

You have given up earlier than usual this year O.D.

I am used to pain following the Dees it comes with the territory.

Have not given up yet wyl.

Amongst all the extreme positivity on Demonland I cannot help but try and inject a bit of realism ( i think I just made up that word )

It would pay us all to remember this is basically the same lot that gave us such a wonderful 2011.

They are trying to play a new style and a lot in different positions and as everyone reminds me they are mostly kids who need more games.

Under those conditions it is not unrealistic to expect some poor performances at the start of 2012.

Playing Collingwood and Hawthorn when you are trying to learn something new looks like very hard work to me.

Both belted us last year when we supposedly knew what we were doing.

Other clubs will be in the same boat as us. Pies in round 2 might also be fairly under strength. This format is much better and fairer as you get to play in front of your fans a couple of teams on decnt grounds and you can try things out. This way you go all the way until the GF at least in the NAB cup and you can see it live or at least on TV. Don't think we really care where we finish as long as we get used to the game plan and try out a few new players.

The pies under strength is probably still way above the dees in early March.

Time will tell Redleg just don't get to far ahead of ourselves.

I smell " we are learning a new system and it takes time" in the air.

Which may be 100% correct I just do not have a good vibe after hearing Neeld yesterday.

The pies under strength is probably still way above the dees in early March.

Time will tell Redleg just don't get to far ahead of ourselves.

I smell " we are learning a new system and it takes time" in the air.

Which may be 100% correct I just do not have a good vibe after hearing Neeld yesterday.

You were at the Breakfast O.D.??

Just found my original Robbie Flower cloth patch-we can't fail now .

You were at the Breakfast O.D.??

No, too rich for me wyl just from what I have picked up during Neeld's last couple of public mutterings.

Hey I might be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5,

it is just my reading of the situation.

No, too rich for me wyl just from what I have picked up during Neeld's last couple of public mutterings.

Hey I might be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5,

it is just my reading of the situation.

Who cares about the talk, Bailey did plenty of that. I care about how we play.

Who cares about intraclub, BC racing in the Lightning this weekend...this is for #19 yes Redleg? Or is this #20 and the record?

Who cares about intraclub, BC racing in the Lightning this weekend...this is for #19 yes Redleg? Or is this #20 and the record?

Nineteen. But don't let on to the Biffenator. He's a big Sepoy fan. Apparently according to Biffen, Black Caviar has been avoiding Sepoy. If you want to talk racing or BC - there is a Black Caviar thread in Sports. Redleg, you might want to add some input on BC.

Nineteen. But don't let on to the Biffenator. He's a big Sepoy fan. Apparently according to Biffen, Black Caviar has been avoiding Sepoy. If you want to talk racing or BC - there is a Black Caviar thread in Sports. Redleg, you might want to add some input on BC.

Will be too busy watching 2 of mine go around today Le Beau Cheval at 2.18 at Goulburn and Noble Game at 8.45 at Moonee Valley and then sunday No Dispute 4.12 at Bendigo. Hopefully they all go well.

BTW go like "lightning" BC.