After this draft- with the amount of midfielders and ruckman we have now - we need to invest in a first class ruck coach- Any suggestions?

Edited November 27, 200915 yr by jayceebee31

Not so sure we need anyone else, but always look to improve mentoring.

Jimmy!................ He will inspire them without even being there!

Someone like a Simon Madden, Luke Darcy, even Spida Everitt or Monkhorst.

i think david loats does a fair bit of ruckwork for our club..

Brendan Van Schaik?

Ruckmen out of contract end of 2010: Jamar, Johnson, Meesen ®, Spencer ®

Ruckmen out of contract end of 2011: Martin, Gawn, Fitzpatrick (key forward?)

If the 5 on our list as of yesterday weren't working their backsides off, they will be now!

Let's get Sam Newman back...

Monkhurst, Spida and Newman....no thanks.

There have to be better options than those culture clowns and dinosaurs.

I had in mind someone like a Paul Salmon , especially now that we have got and in particular Fitzpatrick and Gawn.Another that hit my mind is a former employee- Darren Flanigan- if he could make time available as he is currently Football Manager at Dandenong Stingrays.

The main reason clubs hire players who have just finished their careers is because the game changes a little each year and they would be up to date with what is required

While Maddern is the last great ruckman its important to have fresh thought which can only be acheived by someone recent

People bringing Newman,s name to the table need a straight jacket as he was very ordinary and even less have the ability to teach

Even the rules have changed and nobody knows that better than Jeff White

Whats wrong with the guy we have ?

So long as he can teach it his own personal achievments shouldnt matter

The main reason clubs hire players who have just finished their careers is because the game changes a little each year and they would be up to date with what is required

While Maddern is the last great ruckman its important to have fresh thought which can only be acheived by someone recent

People bringing Newman,s name to the table need a straight jacket as he was very ordinary and even less have the ability to teach

Even the rules have changed and nobody knows that better than Jeff White

Whats wrong with the guy we have ?

So long as he can teach it his own personal achievments shouldnt matter

You are kidding right? We'd be damn lucky to have Newman even stop in once a month to do a session on skills.

If you want someone recent who knows the role of a modern ruck you could always ask Jeff White to come back to the club.

You are kidding right? We'd be damn lucky to have Newman even stop in once a month to do a session on skills.

If you want someone recent who knows the role of a modern ruck you could always ask Jeff White to come back to the club.

Its obvious that the distance between your view on Newman,s ruck coaching ability and mine is similar to christpher hitchens and the pope on religion

Let's get Sam Newman back...

Erm...

If anyone thinks I was being serious when I suggested Newman...

Come on now.

On a serious note, what's Brendon Lade doing now?

Erm...

If anyone thinks I was being serious when I suggested Newman...

Come on now.

On a serious note, what's Brendon Lade doing now?

Assistant coach at Richmond

Jeff White would be the next pick for a ruck coach... Just a suggestion, please dont shoot me down "waving white flag"...

Chris Bryan?

Chris Bryan?

Maybe for Maffra seconds

Assistant coach at Richmond

Yeah I thought he had been taken. Oh well. I think he would have been a good get as a ruck coach.

Yeah I thought he had been taken. Oh well. I think he would have been a good get as a ruck coach.

I agree totally- we need someone like him but WHOM?

I agree totally- we need someone like him but WHOM?

Matthew Allan?

Clark Keating?

Jason Ball?

Beau McDonald?

Steve Alessio?

Matthew Capuano?

Corey McKernan?

Matthew Clarke?

John Barnes?

Shaun Rehn?

Paul Salmon?

Peter Everitt?

Just throwing some names out there that were associated with successful teams.

Not pushing any individual but they must have played under the new centre circle restrictions and succeeded. Jeff White didn't, so who is a recently retired ruckman who has succeeded under the new rules?

Edited November 30, 200915 yr by Crystal Dees

I was at Junction Oval this morning and was taslking about a ruck coach- David Loats was our part time coach last season, and to my knowledge has not been reappointed as yet and a name was mentioned to me that the club should consider Robert Campbell formally of the Hawks

I was at Junction Oval this morning and was taslking about a ruck coach- David Loats was our part time coach last season, and to my knowledge has not been reappointed as yet and a name was mentioned to me that the club should consider Robert Campbell formally of the Hawks

He was serviceable in spite of injury problems. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea.

It is a lot harder to speculate on coaches as a supporter, as, unlike the individual's football ability, none of us has any idea how capable they are in the fields of teaching, understanding the game, analysis and communicating ideas.

Best leave this to the professionals as we have not even limited evidence of these things; we actually have none whatsoever.

And results themselves aren't always a true indicator either - you could have the best coach in the AFL, but if he's trying to teach a donkey how to play ruck, chances are he will not succeed.

He was serviceable in spite of injury problems. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea.

It is a lot harder to speculate on coaches as a supporter, as, unlike the individual's football ability, none of us has any idea how capable they are in the fields of teaching, understanding the game, analysis and communicating ideas.

Best leave this to the professionals as we have not even limited evidence of these things; we actually have none whatsoever.

And results themselves aren't always a true indicator either - you could have the best coach in the AFL, but if he's trying to teach a donkey how to play ruck, chances are he will not succeed.

Very good points you raise- but we need to try,same as the Ox.

Jeff White?

how about Paul Salmon?

michell thorp