carlton are absolutely screwed without fevola. and they have NO depth. take out murphy, gibbs judd and fev and they would get beaten by a LOT of teams.

one advantage of our last few years with all the injuries and experimentation is that we will have fantastic depth going forward - lots of players with talent and experience to cover the odd injury or two.

There was a nutcase boos supporter on the radio the other night explaining how they were going to win the flag THIS year....I could only chuckle then and laugh now....all they deserved Lions by far the better team all year....go trav good on yer

carlton are absolutely screwed without fevola. and they have NO depth. take out murphy, gibbs judd and fev and they would get beaten by a LOT of teams.

one advantage of our last few years with all the injuries and experimentation is that we will have fantastic depth going forward - lots of players with talent and experience to cover the odd injury or two.

Agree. We will win a flag b4 they do!! Thanks Lions, great result

You know what they say about Karma... it's a b$@*h!

Great start to the commentary by Quartermain:

"It's been a long time between drinks in September for these two sides."

Haven't Brisbane won 3 flags and appeared in four Grand finals this decade?

Happy for him that he doesn't follow the Dees or the Saints.

It's a bit like last year. People all talking about Hawthorn 'ending their premiership drought with their first flag in 16 years'. Well, there are 16 teams. So on average, you'd hope that each team would win one every 16 years.

Journalists seem to forget about Melbourne, St Kilda and the Bulldogs when making these comments.

Will Judd be required to explain an unprovoked hand/fingers in Riscotelli's eyes when the Lions player was on the ground?

Damn well hope so. But I think the footage is inconclusive. I mean, how lucky is he that another Carlton player's legs obstruct the vision just as he sticks his hand in Rischitelli's face?

Damn well hope so. But I think the footage is inconclusive. I mean, how lucky is he that another Carlton player's legs obstruct the vision just as he sticks his hand in Rischitelli's face?

The evidence from the other angle is damning. He had no need to have his hand near Judd's face.

On the other hand, Andy Maher singing the Carlton song in the 3rd qyr just typifies the malignant culture at CFC.

They know we are laughing.

On the other hand, Andy Maher singing the Carlton song in the 3rd qyr just typifies the malignant culture at CFC.

Did he really?

Last time I heard a Carlton supporter get that far ahead of themselves was the qualifying final against us in 2000 and we know what happened after 3/4 time that day.

Carlton, we know your chokers!

It's a bit like last year. People all talking about Hawthorn 'ending their premiership drought with their first flag in 16 years'. Well, there are 16 teams. So on average, you'd hope that each team would win one every 16 years.

I acknowledge your point regarding 'premiership droughts' for teams that haven't won a flag in a few years.

However, that's nothing like Quartermain's comment.

Half the teams in the competition play finals each year.

Great start to the commentary by Quartermain:

"It's been a long time between drinks in September for these two sides."

Haven't Brisbane won 3 flags and appeared in four Grand finals this decade?

Happy for him that he doesn't follow the Dees or the Saints.

The Dees played in a final in 2006, the Saints last year.

Here's a list of the AFL teams, ordered by year they last played finals:

Adelaide 2008

Collingwood 2008

St Kilda 2008

Sydney 2008

Western Bulldogs 2008

North Melbourne 2008

Geelong 2008

Hawthorn 2008

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Fremantle 2007

Port Adelaide 2007

West Coast 2007

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Melbourne 2006

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Brisbane 2004

Essendon 2004

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Carlton 2001

Richmond 2001

Didn't Ratten decide to rest a few players, including Judd and Stevens, after Cloke kicked what I thought was the sealer?

Didn't Ratten decide to rest a few players, including Judd and Stevens, after Cloke kicked what I thought was the sealer?

He sure did. The vision immediately went to the box and whilst i am no good at reading lips, he immediately looked to make those moves straight after that goal. Perhaps even close things down.

I had a very enjoyable evening at a Carlton mates house watching the game.

About 5 minutes into the final quarter, he was all 'woohoo, look at us Blues.'

The remainder of the quarter however consisted of him screaming the word 'NO!!' with varying degrees of disbelief and desperation.

Top night out.

On the topic of premature celebrations, my Granddad used to tell the story of being at the 1984 Grand Final and seeing Hawthorn supporters popping champagne corks at 3quarter time. We all know how that ended.

The evidence from the other angle is damning. He had no need to have his hand near Judd's face.

Of course he had no need. But from the footage I've seen, there's no proof that he gouges Rischitelli's eyes. So I reckon he'll get off (undeservedly).

On the other hand, Andy Maher singing the Carlton song in the 3rd qyr just typifies the malignant culture at CFC.

Was Maher on the radio? He wasn't on the TV coverage (it was Mark Howard and Bill McDonald).

Was Maher on the radio? He wasn't on the TV coverage (it was Mark Howard and Bill McDonald).

I believe so.

Sam Lane was talking about it on 774 on Sunday and how embarrassing it was. It was also mention that section of the Gabba ground infested with Blues supporters could be heard singing Lily of the Laguna in the last quarter. Beautiful.

Their unbridled arrogance remind me of the Carlton supporters I was surrounded by in the QF 2000. Derisive and disrespectful in theier slurring of MFC players (eg weak) and the Club (eg salary cheats). Oh how the wheel turned!