l was under the belief that we where not that bad. DB was going good and things were good but after today I'm not so sure.

Our older players let us down and made dumb mistakes.

l think l might have given to much credit to our team.

l have been happy with the way we have been going but BLOODY HELL we are sh*t

*sigh*

We don't have any silky smooth players besides Davey and Sylvia. We have a non-existent forward line. We have 2 players under 50 games holding up our back line. Our "leaders" back out of contests and spray at goal. Our one true leader in McDonald just isn't AFL standard anymore.

What do you expect?

Rebuilding. That is the word. This is the first year of that rebuilding. Last year didn't count because the list was still infected with Daniher's duds. Slowly cleaning them out and slowly pulling them in. Hence a 3-4 year plan.

It's one game, against a team that is flying, on the big stage, of which hardly any of our players have played on.

we are awsome mate..

We are a young team, and a big issue that will arise within our team is CONSISTENCY. i think too many people have taken into account our recent "good" form with our honourable losses. The players need time and will learn from each game, but we just need time. I think our side has the potential to be a great team, but we lack the experience. As well on a side note, i was very unimpressed with the teams acocuntability today, so many free pies players :@

Watching the game today I couldn't help but think how the forward line was bereft of something special. Time to unleash Liam Jurrah. This might have been Jack Watts day, but I reckon by season's end there will be a lot of talk about the no 1 pick in the PSD. Believe me folks, he's primed.

Watching the game today I couldn't help but think how the forward line was bereft of something special. Time to unleash Liam Jurrah. This might have been Jack Watts day, but I reckon by season's end there will be a lot of talk about the no 1 pick in the PSD. Believe me folks, he's primed.

I agree Brad Dick kicked 5 today why not play Jurrah

Young sides are up and down.

We have been good for weeks. This was a downer. It was always going to happen sometime this year and may well again.

Aside from D Bell who has had many chances I would not be drawing any conclusions from this.

Young sides are up and down.

We have been good for weeks. This was a downer. It was always going to happen sometime this year and may well again.

Aside from D Bell who has had many chances I would not be drawing any conclusions from this.

Bell has to go.

I agree Brad Dick kicked 5 today why not play Jurrah

yea and see the arms on that bloke today!? my dick is thicker then his arms!!

I agree Brad Dick kicked 5 today why not play Jurrah

My only concern about playing Jurrah at the moment, is consistency.

He is having some great bursts at Casey, but its only bursts. DB is after consistency.

It probably wouldnt hurt to play him in sperts like we did with Watts.

We REALLY needed Miller today. He would have been THE ONLY lead up forward today. he kicked 4.3 (??) maybe 4.4 at Casey. Not really straight but getting plenty of it.

yea and see the arms on that bloke today!? my dick is thicker then his arms!!

This is also his 4th year on an AFL list. He needed to show something or he would have been gone. Let's see how the stick bandit goes when he has someone a little more capable than Cale Morton playing on him.

Watching the game today I couldn't help but think how the forward line was bereft of something special. Time to unleash Liam Jurrah. This might have been Jack Watts day, but I reckon by season's end there will be a lot of talk about the no 1 pick in the PSD. Believe me folks, he's primed.

We have so many weaknesses all over the ground, one player won't make the difference RB especially up forward. BUT someone of LJ's speed and overhead ability would be huge for us, we are so slow up forward, rarely ever see one of our fwds with seperation from a defender where as you looked at the pies and everywhere across the ground they could get 4 steps on a MFC player in 6 steps!!!

I would like to see Jurrah back it up again next week before jumping up for him as we tend to do on these sites. As you mentioned on other threads his upside is massive so lets not rush this potential gem.

We were woeful today and noone can hide from that but we all have 2 be a little realistic and look at things like the draw we have had. In the past 6 wks we have played 5 of the best teams in the comp and played the WCE in Perth. With a very young list and players looking forward to a break, I think a big loss was on the cards.

I agree Brad Dick kicked 5 today why not play Jurrah

Because we cannot simply let skinny blokes get smashed and we cant have too many in one side.

Watts will be Ok and he looked slight and nervy, why throw another out there? Let him earn a game later.

How good are we?

Right now I feel a lot like 2005, where we had the long slump followed by the last three wins in a row in tight games, scraped into the finals and then got smashed by Geelong and straight out of the finals.

It's been similar - we've being putting a hell of a lot in this last month, and I'd reckon doing that and still not getting the wins would be even more exhausting than those last desperate games of '05.

We hit our limit today, mentally done in, we crumpled. Just be glad it's the split round and we have some time to freshen up, focus on the much more attackable draw in the second half of the season, and see how we go from there.

The culprits today from my point of view were Whelan, PJ, Bate, Bruce and Jones.

Only Jones of those 5 will be around in the future and he is still a NQR.

The culprits today from my point of view were Whelan, PJ, Bate, Bruce and Jones.

Only Jones of those 5 will be around in the future and he is still a NQR.

How was he (Jones) a culprit? he did more good things than bad.

As for bate why do you think he wont be around? He is not playing that well but I think when the

ball gets kicked in there more often he will kick 3 - 4 goals a week consistantly.

How was he (Jones) a culprit? he did more good things than bad.

As for bate why do you think he wont be around? He is not playing that well but I think when the

ball gets kicked in there more often he will kick 3 - 4 goals a week consistantly.

How was Jones a culprit?

Getting caught with the ball, shoddy disposal, including him kicking a high floater across goal in the defensive 50 to Bell (3rd quarter I think) which was so poor it was turned over and came back for a goal. Maybe I am being harsh on him but I believe he was poor.

Bate did one good thing for the day, dribbled one home from 55 out, but only after someone got the ball for him. When the game was 'alive' (although it never really was), he fumbled and failed with his hands and head time after time.

I for one really hope Bate isn't a part of our future.

I believe he takes a valuable position on the ground but he has very little influence on games.

I honestly don't know what people like about him.