Tigers have the perrfect coach

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

Dammit!!! Richmond have said they're keeping Wallace for the time being.

If you want your team to challenge the Demons for the coveted 16th spot, then who better to coach than a coach the players all hate??!!

For our sake, the sooner they get a caretaker(or better still, a prospective permanent)coach, the more likely they are to win a few games.

[e25 5]

Dammit!!! Richmond have said they're keeping Wallace for the time being.

If you want your team to challenge the Demons for the coveted 16th spot, then who better to coach than a coach the players all hate??!!

For our sake, the sooner they get a caretaker(or better still, a prospective permanent)coach, the more likely they are to win a few games.

very good call.

Maybe thats the reasoning behind keeping him in the position? to ensure they get the best draft pick possible now that their season is toast?

Cos i'm at a loss to think of any other decent reasons...

[H_T 3,043]

Not so sure. Only if they've made a collective decision at the club behind closed doors......that being the "rebuilding path"....would they challenge for 16th as strange as it might seem.

Maybe they are just too stubborn to realise of where their list is at...(take note Craig Cameron).....and they (incl Wallet) quite unbelievably, are still aiming for a finals spot until mathematically impossible.

If the latter is true, from a Melbournefc perspective (and majority of Demonlanders perspective (it seems)), the RFC viewing is good.

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Enforcer25, Why would Wallace entertain on staying on as coach to finish last anyway?

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

"Enforcer25, Why would Wallace entertain on staying on as coach to finish last anyway?"

The point is....Wallace might want them to do well, but he doesn't have the support of the players.

Meanwhile, that situation might suit their footy dept.

[e25 5]

The point is....Wallace might want them to do well, but he doesn't have the support of the players.

Meanwhile, that situation might suit their footy dept.

Correct. Wallace will try to win and fail miserably, whilst the board privately know that bottoming out is not only inevitable, it has already happened.

[H_T 3,043]

The point is....Wallace might want them to do well, but he doesn't have the support of the players.

Meanwhile, that situation might suit their footy dept.

What came out yesterday in the "meeting" is he has the support of the players. Senior players were also not happy with Mitch Morton not adhering to team rules. I'd expect Morton to be dropped this week. If not, they've lost the plot entirely at Punt Rd.

[e25 5]

Tenuous support in my mind.

Did you read about the senior players making the decision before the Sydney match to go back to basics and play man-on-man accountable football, only for Wallace tochange tact and play a loose man in defence, then eventually 2?

I'd find it hard to give my coach support if he did that. Token maybe, but those sort of actions create a palpable rift.

[H_T 3,043]

Correct. Wallace will try to win and fail miserably, whilst the board privately know that bottoming out is not only inevitable, it has already happened.

Of course Wallace will try and win. His career depends on it, from his point of view.

If the board sit back now and let him coach for the rest of the season, and watch Wallace win four of the next 8 games, and they finish say 8 and 14 and miss finals. They will have lost ground. They will have cheated their members in failing to miss a prime opportunity in the start of their rebuilding phase. Ie. 1st or 2nd pick in the last uncompromised draft for some time.

Better to finish him up now, cut their losses. And be first in line for a new coach. With so many coaches coming out of contract this year, they should make the move now.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

The issue with Wallace may well be contractual and not focussed on losing games.

Having a carcass for a Coach only feeds the media frenzy.

A smarter club would have realised the situation and taken steps to get it resolved.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

" watch Wallace win four of the next 8 games,"

You have a much higher opinion of Richmond's ability(with disenchanted players, and no Richo) than most people.

The problem is, they're unlikely to win ANY with this set-up.

Hope I'm wrong!

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

Dammit!!! Richmond have said they're keeping Wallace for the time being.

If you want your team to challenge the Demons for the coveted 16th spot, then who better to coach than a coach the players all hate??!!

For our sake, the sooner they get a caretaker(or better still, a prospective permanent)coach, the more likely they are to win a few games.

Not sure about that call, I would think from now on till the end of the season the Richmond players are playing for their contract & worth. I Reckon they will come home hard & Finish 9th!

[mo64 5,853]

The point is....Wallace might want them to do well, but he doesn't have the support of the players.

Meanwhile, that situation might suit their footy dept.

Spot on. It serves no purpose in sacking Wallace now. A caretaker coach may have a short-term impact on the players, and they may end up with 6-8 wins, which will ultimately be detrimental to any rebuilding plans of the footy dept. And Richmond's performances against Geelong, Sydney and Pt. Adelaide suggest that they are capable of winning games.

Ideally, Richmond should do what Collingwood did with Tony Shaw. After round 11, when it's mathematically impossible to make the finals, advise the football world that Wallace won't have his contract renewed, but will coach until the end of the season, with a brief to blood the kids.

Richmond are doing the right thing by ignoring the media frenzy.

[H_T 3,043]

"..... watch Wallace win four of the next 8 games,"

You have a much higher opinion of Richmond's ability(with disenchanted players, and no Richo) than most people.

The problem is, they're unlikely to win ANY with this set-up.

Hope I'm wrong!

Try not to take me out of context next time. The start of the sentence said, "If the board......."

It was meant to be an example of what might occur.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

Try not to take me out of context next time. The start of the sentence said, "If the board......."

It was meant to be an example of what might occur.

Sorry HT, I didn't intend to take you out of context like that. I just try to take the relevant bit of text when quoting , in order to save space.

I think the point is that it's very unlikely that Richmond will perform well with the current arrangement. As I said...."I hope I'm wrong!" (I usually am!)

[deanox 9,896]

if the senior players did indeed step in and save wallace this week, perhaps this week will be the equivalent of a bounce back from the sacking of the coach game?

[MadAsHell 4,212]

What the Richmond board are doing is cutting off their nose to spite their face. It's obvious that they don't want to sack Wallace mid-season and put off any possible candidates for the job. Remember Mick Malthouse made the comment that he wouldn't look favourably upon a club that sacked it's coach mid year. So instead of sackig him now and putting a care taker in to blood the kids and finish last and have the best picks in the draft available to them to rebuild, they're keeping Wallace who will try and win as many games as possible to save his career. Which could end up them coming say 11th and not coming into an already weakend draft till pick 7!

It's quite a hillarious situation that they've got themselves into from a Melbourne supporters perspective. hehe.

[45HG 1,539]

Richmond, what an odd one.

How has it all gone so wrong? Two finals series since 82, 6 times finishing 9 recently. St Kilda i can figure out, but not Richmond.

Like us after 64?

[Hobbits's 17]

The sacking of Tony Jewell?

or is it the KB curse?

[dee-luded 2,959]

Dammit!!! Richmond have said they're keeping Wallace for the time being.

If you want your team to challenge the Demons for the coveted 16th spot, then who better to coach than a coach the players all hate??!!

For our sake, the sooner they get a caretaker(or better still, a prospective permanent)coach, the more likely they are to win a few games.

They still have a midseason football dept/coach review, Rnd 11/12. Wallace could still be changed after this review. A club cant have the players 'wagging the dog'.

Imo they're after pick 2.

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By the way,,, IMO the Kanga's &&& Pies are heavily List Managing. And watch the crows closely, I'm not sure yet.

This is Teams last chance to stock up on quality Youth, for a few years...

Pies IMO are looking to get a top 8 pick, the cream I think thins after this,.

Kanga's are allready playing youth in the seniors.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

if the senior players did indeed step in and save wallace this week, perhaps this week will be the equivalent of a bounce back from the sacking of the coach game?

Doubt it. They would be 2 wins from 8 games. He is still in the gun.

What the Richmond board are doing is cutting off their nose to spite their face. It's obvious that they don't want to sack Wallace mid-season and put off any possible candidates for the job.

Unless their candidate is from Kazakhstan I doubt it. If the Board does not act or be seen to act proactively then what Coash will want to coach a side with a Board that vacillates. Everyone knows the Tigers are in a mess and their procrastinations only make it worse.

Remember Mick Malthouse made the comment that he wouldn't look favourably upon a club that sacked it's coach mid year.

Gee they would not be the voice of self interest coming forth would it?

So instead of sackig him now and putting a care taker in to blood the kids and finish last and have the best picks in the draft available to them to rebuild, they're keeping Wallace who will try and win as many games as possible to save his career. Which could end up them coming say 11th and not coming into an already weakend draft till pick 7!

It's quite a hillarious situation that they've got themselves into from a Melbourne supporters perspective. hehe.

Yes isnt it!! B)

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

A club cant have the players 'wagging the dog'.

Its seems that way.

The Dog is definitely on life support...just.

[1858 285]

Not sure about that call, I would think from now on till the end of the season the Richmond players are playing for their contract & worth. I Reckon they will come home hard & Finish 9th!

This has been my way of looking at it. When a coach is under the pump both young and old players are generally tentative on how big a clean out there will be and you'd think personal performance would be on their agenda. Having said that, this is Richmond and we still don't know what is really going on behind closed doors. I think that as long as the RFC board have not made any concrete decisions then we can't really tell how they will go gameplan- wise, player-wise and hence win-wise. I expect they may finish last but still too early to call. The other factor to consider is if there is any hint of dissent now, how will things be by round 11 or the end of the season? What ever the club desires as a long term season approach I doubt they will get it - in my mind if Wallace is kept he will serve his own interests what ever they may be.

[Carn Melbourne 0]

Come on Richmond sign Wallace on for another 3 years.

With the exception of the filth, nothing better than Richmond supporters attacking their own.