Tom Hawkins for #1 pick

[Mono 455]

NO!

[Little Goffy 14,453]

A few people are gonna be pretty upset when Watts spends most of the coming year in the VFL and at school finishing year 12.

But frankly, it's best for him and for the future. If he gets a few games in 09 to acclimatise, does another preseason and comes in and wins the Rising Star in 2010, I'll be happy enough (assuming we grab him).

Hmmm... a few people have talked this draft up as being on a level with the 2001 super-draft.

It might be worth noting that 2001 was the draft that made Geelong. In fact, it will go down in history as the best drafting effort ever. Consider -

pick 8 - J. Bartel

pick 17 - J. Kelly

pick 23 - C. Gardiner

pick 24 - S. Johnson

pick 40 (f/s) - Gary Ablett Jr.

pick 41- H. Playfair

pick 69 - M. Mcarthy

pick 81 - D. Johnson

bizarrely enough, they also picked up Andrew Carazzo in the rookie draft.

Melbourne picked up Molan, Armstrong, Rogers and Miller, for the record. And thus we fell short in '04-'06

Chances are we'll only have four picks in the 2008 National Draft (plus PSD Pick 1) but they'll be pretty good picks (1-17-19-35).

[Eastie Boyz 0]

I wouldnt say it "made" the 2007 Geelong premiership team (though no doubting all 4 players were more than handy inclusions!)

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

I wouldnt say it "made" the 2007 Geelong premiership team (though no doubting all 4 players were more than handy inclusions!)

Id say it made them alright!

Imagine them without, Ablett, Kelly, Bartel???

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

Dominating at VFL level doesn't translate to being a competent player at AFL level. Just ask Mark Jamar or Paul Johnson. There is a significant gap between the two, even more so at Geelong. Hawkins has yet to play in the AFL like he has at the VFL.

And it is true that he can't crack into the Geelong team. He has been fit for most of this year, yet Lonergan and Gamble have taken his spot in the team.

Grat point, and well said..

This is my point! what has he done at AFL level?? not alot, yes hasnt had a hell of alot of chances, but enough!

Absolutely NO ONE inside the league would give a top 5 pick in this draft for him, let alone no.1!

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Id say it made them alright!

Imagine them without, Ablett, Kelly, Bartel???

They'd probably still be on top lol

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

They'd probably still be on top lol

Lol..

I know what you mean, but it set them up to become the side they are, thats the point..

Remeber, the moral here is, you dont trade no.1 pick in a draft like this away for a bloke who still has question marks, both with his overall ability on the big stage, and whetehr he can get his body right!

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

A few people are gonna be pretty upset when Watts spends most of the coming year in the VFL and at school finishing year 12.

But frankly, it's best for him and for the future. If he gets a few games in 09 to acclimatise, does another preseason and comes in and wins the Rising Star in 2010, I'll be happy enough (assuming we grab him).

Hmmm... a few people have talked this draft up as being on a level with the 2001 super-draft.

It might be worth noting that 2001 was the draft that made Geelong. In fact, it will go down in history as the best drafting effort ever. Consider -

pick 8 - J. Bartel

pick 17 - J. Kelly

pick 23 - C. Gardiner

pick 24 - S. Johnson

pick 40 (f/s) - Gary Ablett Jr.

pick 41- H. Playfair

pick 69 - M. Mcarthy

pick 81 - D. Johnson

bizarrely enough, they also picked up Andrew Carazzo in the rookie draft.

Melbourne picked up Molan, Armstrong, Rogers and Miller, for the record. And thus we fell short in '04-'06

Chances are we'll only have four picks in the 2008 National Draft (plus PSD Pick 1) but they'll be pretty good picks (1-17-19-35).

You would be naive to overlook what they got in 1999 as well

13 Corey

31 Chapman

38 Ling

47 Enright

and they still managed to blow pick 15 on David Spriggs and survive the fall out.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Spriggs was good til he did his knee.

Didn't do much after that

[Axis of Bob 11,684]

Spriggs couldn't kick. That's what did him, IMO.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Yeah he wasn't the greatest kick going around, but up until the knee he was flying

[Yze_Magic 3]

Tom hawkins for the number 1 pick?

What the hell.

Hawkins is fat, slow and has the turning circle of a Boeing 747.

Jack Watts has it over him in every area.

Can you imagine Jack Watts joining Geelong? Wow. They would win the next 10 flags.

[twist 0]

Tom hawkins for the number 1 pick?

What the hell.

Hawkins is fat, slow and has the turning circle of a Boeing 747.

Jack Watts has it over him in every area.

Can you imagine Jack Watts joining Geelong? Wow. They would win the next 10 flags.

How much under 18's football have you watched this year?

[Yze_Magic 3]

How much under 18's football have you watched this year?

The championships on Foxtel.

Why do you ask?

[Kiss of Death 747]

Tomahawk is from the Kent Kingsley / Scott Welsh school - the players who look good against us and rack up a ton of possessions/goals, but aren't really that good. Pass.

[H_T 3,043]

Tomahawk is from the Kent Kingsley / Scott Welsh school - the players who look good against us and rack up a ton of possessions/goals, but aren't really that good. Pass.

C for C. Scott Welsh is a good player, alot better than Kent Kingsley IMO. Tomahawk is still young and can take a good pack mark overhead - where as the other two have trouble doing that, Tomahawk - he'll be a decent player for Geelong's future.

[Dalrot 85]

Amazed at the amount of people writing off a teenage KPP.

Sure I wouldn't give pick 1 up for him but some of the comments in this thread are sheer idiocy.

[twist 0]

The championships on Foxtel.

Why do you ask?

Because thats not enough to have an opinion that should be taken seriously.

[Yze_Magic 3]

Because thats not enough to have an opinion that should be taken seriously.

Well please enlighten us with your under 18 football knowledge, oh wise one.

[titan_uranus 24,974]

Can you imagine Jack Watts joining Geelong? Wow. They would win the next 10 flags.

What makes you think they won't regardless?