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@Macca i know you’ve got a few conversations on the go but you are not replying to some of the comments that show your argument to be flawed. Reminds me of another poster who is never wrong.

What would you do with Oliver, Viney and Sparrow?

Should of dropped Viney and Oliver because they’re not adhering to the gameplan, but a soft coach wouldn’t do that.

They’d be a few coaches in waiting sitting back saying to themselves I could do a lot with this list. There’d be more coaches sitting back saying thar player could add a lot to team going forward he’s being wasted at Melbourne.

They showed footage during the week of players running in numbers to receive the handball only for Oliver and Viney to boot it long down the line, again. Goodwins answer to this is to drop Fritsch and JVR. The coach is the bludging.

Yes and no, it’s human behaviour, everyone responds differently / needs different motivation. My biggest concern is we have a lot of talent on our list and right now other clubs are eyeing our players off, I believe the longer Goodwin stays on the more damage he is doing in terms of quality players looking at leaving come seasons end. I’ve been a supporting this club my whole life and i’m in my 21st year as a Redleg member but if I’m being honest I want us to get flogged today because I want Goodwin gone. I don’t believe he’s capable (I’m not blaming the assistants even though some also aren’t capable) of turning things around, he’s to blame as he is the head coach. Happy to cop flack for this but I’m being honest, we’ve got too much talent to be playing the way we are and copping the losses we have against ordinary opposition. We’ve all seen this play out before only difference is this time we’ve got a lot more to lose in terms of quality players, which will make it harder for us to bounce back.

So the gameplan is the players fault too? I think that’s why some of the players have given up because they’re watching every other club go past and Goodwin refuses to budge. I read earlier (can’t remember which thread) that Goodwin has been trying to implement a new game plan since 2024, that makes it even worse. The little I saw of the Eagles last night they had some really good passages of play moving the footy at pace, running in numbers.

And that’s why we have a head coach but he has enabled certain behaviours to creep into the side ie Oliver. This club is currently like my workplace, highly paid individuals paid well to perform, most of us do but a small minority don’t share the same work ethic, don’t go the extra yard and ride on the back of others hard work. They are dragging jobs out to intentionally gain extra overtime and in some cases rework is required cutting into any profit for that job. My boss argues with me that I’m paying you all well, you’re all experienced so this shouldn’t be happening, I simply replied you knew what these people were like when you hired them, you knew there strengths and weaknesses, these behaviours are not new, they’ve been acting out from day one and you chose to do nothing, eighteen months later you can’t reign them in and you’re acting surprised.

JVR is soft. JVR and Fritsch won’t go near a contest. Anyone else agree with this?

Disagree Macca. Goodwin is the one who is soft, I'm a massive fan of Fritsch and resisted calls for him to be dropped earlier this season citing gameplan and our fwd 50 entries were to blame. Yes he was lazy defensively, but when public challenged he responded and subsequently gets dropped the following week. Why hadn’t Goodwin dropped one of / combination of Viney, Oliver or Sparrow. Does he think that they’re not the problem or can’t bring himself to do it?

So with JVR who is a developing KPF it’s his fault not the lack of coaching and gameplan which gives him little chance to succeed?

Are they? Well Goodwin has the power to drop the players, set the parameters for culture and drive change, he is the head coach. Or has he become too close to some of the players and allowed standards for some to drop? This is in addition to our gameplan, skills etc.

North’s last 113 games. 16 wins 1 draw 96 losses This competition can’t sustain 19 & 20 teams.

When they’re our home games Tigers / Pies still bring the crowd and we profit heavily.

On current form Collingwood will destroy us and take pleasure in doing so.

Be careful, we’ve got Anzac Eve and KB.

Carlton and their supporters carry on like North did when they beat us. The circle of life.

Watching this game are posters still keen to trade Fritsch (28) and Petty (25)? Difference between devoid of talent and devoid of confidence / interest. We’ve got talent, we just need a new coach / coaches and a game plan to boot.

He’s already signed, moneys in the bank.

For Bevo to say his path back will be decided / guided by the AFL puts the mental health card to bed. Any club taking him on would be wanting clauses in his contract should certain scenario’s play out.

Gerard Wheatley on Zurhar : He’s a hard man to bring down in an alley.

Was thinking the same, just put some multis on with them in them.

It’s a yes but the picks we’re getting from Freo / Geelong won’t be what the Eagles will be wanting.

Stockholm syndrome is in full effect for some.

For starters those with a guaranteed ticket as part of their membership.