manny100

I am thinking we trade for GC pick 4. Using our 2024 1st round pick, our pick, 24,34 and possibly the pick we get for Grundy if traded. GC have a stack of points and a 20% discount. The above should see them through no problems. We need to keep in mind in 2025 draft we will get Kalani White a likely KPF.. Pick 4 i would go for O'Sullivan a well credentialled 198cm KPB given May is around 30. Petty is likely earmarked for Forward in 2024. Pick 5 i would go for a gun mid if available or a small forward such as Watson who may eventually be a good mid anyway. Kosi may also play a bit more mid time as he matures. Keep in mind compromised draft in around 27/28 for Tassy. Pick 15 we good look at best available. There may also be a ruck available for consideration, eg Edwards. Next year as Tomlinson, Brown and Tmc depart or play on reduced salary we may bring in a free agent to make up for our 2024 1st round traded in 2023. 2025 we get White. .

North have stocked up with kids in recent drafts. They need experienced players. If they let Mckay go they are crazy - they can match an offer. Our first priority to get up the ladder was recruit mids then May and Lever as backs. The AFL know more kids are not the answer. They need to retain McKay get a couple of experienced players in either via trade or UFA etc. The AFL will likely allow North to prelist a couple of non AFL listed players.

I would say the Recuiting and List Management Team at the Dees would be looking at making offers for the WCE pick 1 and GC 's 1st rounder. Possible compo or priority for North will interfere with potential deals. There are a number of WA kids ranked 15 to 30 plus or there abouts so they may be interested in swapping for our picks to get access to them. Last year they swapped their pick 2 for picks 8 and 12 to pick up WA kids. Although i think those picks slipped with FS/Academy bids. GC will definitely trade their 1st rounder. They will probably want our 2 round 2 picks and a future 1st. They have plenty of 2nd and 3rd round picks already and a 20% points discount. What would be best: Reid, or 2 picks around the 4/5/6 area in this draft? Or no trade and our Freo pick around pick 5 and our 1st rounder likely 16 plus (hopefully 18).

I think we will have a go at trading for GC's 1st pick. We will have to cough up a future 1st plus one or both 2023 2nd rounders and a little back.

Add Caddy to that impressive list. GC have a basket full of later picks and a 20% discount on bids in terms of points. They will trade their pick 5 or 6 but as they will not need loads more points they will look for a future 1st rounder plus say picks like we hold in the 2nd round (Freo's and or ours). It will depend on competition for the pick. Our expected future 1st rounder will be late ish. We should go for it though. Rumor has it that GWS will do a salary dump during the trade period. That will be interesting.

I would klike to see us trade for GC's 1st rounder. Our Freo pick before being pushed back should be pick 4/5. GC's 1st rounder will then likely be 5/6. GC are stacked with later picks and with a 20% points discount will not need to many extra points. So it may IMO be worth offering our 2024 1st rounder and our Freo 2023 2nd rounder and/or our 2023 2nd rounder. I note that Kynan Brown has a great last game with the Chargers. He has been a late developer showing some good traits as a mid in the Championships. Late developers are often preferred by recruiters. It may mean that we know a good mid is already a certainty. So that will give us an advantage come the draft. With the above we could have our usual 1st rounder say 16/17/18 plus picks 4/5 or picks 5/6. Plus Kynan to come in for a later pick. If Simon and his team get it right with the above picks with some elite kids we could be set for another 10 plus years at the top. Then add White junior in a couple of years. Knowing our drafting and list management team we will be plotting something for sure. There is loads of talent in this draft.

Kynan Brown gets a go. Well done Kynan.

I agree getting the player you want plus a discount is double dipping. No changes please until after we get the young Mr White in a couple of years.

If the AFL were playing a 'fair' game for a change that would ask GC to nominate one player out of their Academy they want to keep and allow North to pick one of the other 3 players eligible in the GC Academy. That is if the AFL decide to award a priority. That takes away the dilution of draft factor. The draft is compromised enough as it is. Its a disgusting joke. The AFL has no qualms changing the rule so we missed out on Mac Andrew. If North are given pick 3 then WCE will not trade pick 1 because pick 4 (if Freo finish in that spot) effectively pick 5 or pick 6 with Walters to GC. So a North priority if given effectively has the AFL bending us over twice in the last few years.

Next year B Brown, TMc and Tommo are all out of contract. Its likely least 2 will not be renewed. The following 2025 preseason will be Jefferson's 3rd so he should be raring to go.

Yes, and i remember all the [censored] that was heaped on the MFC and the AFL for giving us an early pick as compo. Frawley was a gun. McKay has done little in comparison. Can't see him getting an offer that would attract an early 1st rounder. This draft is already compromised beyond belief with Academy and FS picks. Fox Footy article today says there is a 4th GC Academy player Will Graham who may get nominated top 30 or 40.

Agree, Frawley was a very good player. A couple of flags at the Hawks.

This is shaping up to be the most compromised draft since GC/GWS were brought into the competition. Its turning into a FARCE. If North get pick 3 compensation or assistance its around a possible 6 out of the top 20 either Nothern Academy, FS or Priority/compensation. There are some really good prospects in the top 10. We need to trade up for a second top to pick (likely GC's).

" If a player is bid on after pick 56, then the nominating club need only use its last pick in the draft to list the player." Its likely that we will only have to use our pick 80ish to pick up Kynan.

Good summary, hopefully we get a pick 4/5 or 6 from Freo's ladder finish. Pick 4 would be sensational. GC will be keen to trade their 1st rounder likely around picks 7/8 or 9. With so many Academy and F/S picks tipped to go fairly early best for us to trade for that GC pick before the 'eyes' are picked out of the remaining players. From your summary and cross referencing to the ESPN July power rankings there are very good chances of getting a couple of elite players in that top 10 if we can also 'nab' the GC 1st rounder.

He was in Vic Metro's best players in every game. He is a consistent, reliable accumulator. Plus hard at the ball. Every team needs these types of players. You know what you are going to get week in/week out.

Congratulations Judd. Well deserved.

Hoping Swans can do the right think and beat Freo in WA next week!!!! If they do it would be very likely we will get pick 4 or 5.

I would go McKercher. Also i hope we get GC s 1st rounder and a player we want may slip through.eg, Watson. Whether we go a tall eg O'Sullivan if we get GCs 1st rounder depends on how we see Jefferson, Adams and Turner work out.

McKercher is a gun and will adjust to AFL quickly IMO. A bit of elite midfield depth would not go astray. Watson would also be a good pickup IMO. Elite junior, fast, evasive, kicks goals. Would boost our forward line. We will likely go in hard to trade for GC's first round pick (likely pick 6 to 9). Drafting 2 high probability elite players better than going for a higher number of less probability players at this stage with our list. We might even consider getting GC 1st rounder plus one of their early pick mids not getting a regular game if we think we can develop him, eg Hollands.

We know we are getting a KPF/KPB in Kalani White in 2025. That allows us to prioritise our draft picks working around that. Other list managers complained about that in relation to the Swans Academy. They knew they had mids coming through so could prioritise accordingly in prior drafts. Hence they rarely bottom out for more than a season. Lets hope no AFL F/S rule changes. We need another elite mid or speedy small forward this draft - or both.

He will be drafted for sure IMO via late pick. Gets plenty of the ball, runs hard and is fearless. A couple of AFL pre seasons will see him add a bit of size and strength to his frame.

With the 20% discount for Academy players the GC will save a heap on points required. For example if Walter is nominated at pick 2 that is worth 2527 points. GC match and pick him up for 2014 points. If Read (Jackson comparison) gets bid at say pick 5 1878 points. GC will match at 1502 points. Say Rogers (mid) gets a bid at pick 10 1395 points. GC matches at 1116 points. Savings = 279 ponts. TOTAL savings = 1168 points = circa pick 14. Not a bad deal to get 3 top 10 ranked picks plus a huge points savings on top. This will vary depending on where bids fall. If the GC make the finals they can only match 2 bids in round one. Certainly worth the Dees having a shot at the GC first round pick. They have already banked a few and will probably want a deal involving future swap (our future 1st for their future 2nd) plus our 2023 second rounder/s (ours and maybe Freos). Just a guess. Then we will package our picks in a bid to go higher at the pointy end. 2024 sees CAP relief with Tommo, TMc and BB possibly all finishing up so we can bid for a free agent instead of having a first round pick. If we a deal this year with GC we may end up with their 2nd rounder next year along with ours.

Plus a possible top 20 or close to for Mc Cabe (Hawks) and Croft (Bullies). Kynan Brown works hard and gets in the best players on a regular basis. Like most players coming through probably needs 2 or 3 of AFL pre seasons to build his game and body to cope with AFL. Positives for Kynan are he knows how to find the ball on a regular basis, works hard and is pretty well fearless. So plenty to work with. He will be picked up late in the draft IMO.

He has not been getting in the best players for the Suns Academy players according to the scouting notes on Rookie me Central. But he may well be a later developer. Happens all the time especially for the really tall players. Under 16's for perspective. Jason Taylor described him as an exciting athlete.