spirit of norm smith

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Tomlinson was a key forward at under 18s with elite endurance 194cms 96 kg No one should say he is being brought in for outside run. He’s a key position player.

I agree Langdon over Jones. But I’d rather Jones than Tomlinson. If we have to push out Frost, then perhaps to punt on getting Zak Jones might have been understood. Obviously Zak Jones does not want to play alongside his brother in a final season for our Jonesy.

We are probably 3rd in line right now. He fits our need for a quality small forward.

Why in other posts and in this, why are people saying “ Langdon and Tomlinson address outside run “. Langdon. Absolutely. Pace. Run. Good 75/25 disposal efficiency. Tomlinson. Big. 6”4’. Slow. Played reserve ruck in Giants finals. More suited to Chf/CHB. He is no wingman. No outside runner. We will likely get Tomlinson in on a 4-yr $500k a year deal. But he doesn’t address outside run. Maybe plugs the hole left in key defence by the pushout on Frost.

I read through the Top 10 B&F at all the clubs. Frost is probably the only top 10 player not being retained or offered a contract. It’s madness. Pace. Strength. Tackling. Spoils. Shutdown. Clearly had an excellent year. Played all 22 games. Fit. Key defender with abilities not easy to find. Sure he has a few clangers. So did quite a few others. He gets the footy. He needs coaching. We have 9 coaches. Surely one must be able to solve this small puzzle. That’s why Clarko will back himself. Frost and May would be an excellent backline pair. Lever to be the 3rd tall as he did at the Crows. That works. Lever struggles as a key defender. Surely Omcd is not the answer. Had a shocker of a year after so many gifted games. No pace. No strength. Safe 15 metre sideways passes. It cannot be footy. It must be $$$. We must be clearing room for Tomlinson and potentially Elliott. (Assume Lewis $$ goes to fit in Langdon). That’s the only thinking. To not even offer a contract but let him look elsewhere. As I have said, if your employer doesn’t want you, you have to look elsewhere. Lots of confused supporters. Lots of confused ex-player footy media experts. Its a bizarre decision that really only Goody knows the reason.

Young would not be a small defender. At 188cms more likely a 3rd tall half back quarterback type.

17th place. That’s the state of play. Whatever the plan, it’s a mountain to climb. I hope our faith in Mahoney is better placed than it ended up being with Cameron Schwab.

Agree. Pies still favourites to retain him. Lions would be probably ahead of Dees if he was leaving. Mahoney didn’t seem too excited other than to say we have a 3 year offer. Maybe it’s just Elliotts management angles to push up the Pies to offer him 3 years.

Agree. It is MFC telling Frost he’s not wanted. In any workplace, once you are not wanted, you might as well go elsewhere. Disappointing.

Hill is off to the Saints

What will hawks give us ? Pick 30 ?? Tim O’Brien might be discussed.

Agree. If Lions offer 3 years then he may prefer the sunshine state over us. Hard to believe 12 months ago.

I agree that we need to look beyond Tmcd and Weideman. Both “can” be our two key forwards but the list needs a depth key forward. In the draft , Jake Riccardi, winner of the Round-Forhergill medal for best young player in the VFL- would be an excellent choice. 194cm agile CHF type. Only 20 but very promising. I watched him v Casey and in the finals game against Box Hill. Will take a good summer in the gym. Other options for JT are - Charlie Dean (Sandringham under 18s). Impressive youngster who trained with Dees last summer. Could be drafted anywhere between 25-30 or 45-55. More of a chf. Hopefully he is available around our pick 42ish. - Emerson Jeka. (Western under 18s). Big strong marking forward. Played v Casey and has the basics of a key forward. Could be available around the 50 mark. Strong like Hawkins type.

Pace. Yes. Kicking. No. If Goody should learn ANYTHING, disposal efficiency is CRITICAL

Luke Shuey Patrick Dangerfield Dustin Martin nic nat but seriously I’m glad we missed Nathan Freeman

Have to see Jay Rantall now fly into top 25 contention. Former star junior basketballer. Had a great year. I only saw him once against Calder but was dominant and looked like an AFL ready player. Not the most stylish but effective. I remember Matt Crouch looked similar and he is a star. Not sure Rantall would suit our needs but he’ll be a player. Standout big midfielder.

Elliott, Tomlinson and Langdon covered by Mahoney today. Any other wildcard trades??

Brodie Kemp would have been the standout at 3 before he got injured. It remains to see if JT and Goody would have the courage to choose him. Young and Serong are safe choices at 3. Wouldn’t dispute either being called out. Ash could be the “for needs” pick as we need pace.

Oh no no no

Close to the mark. Stretch will get trade currency as others will see blue sky for him.

Still haven’t heard what hawks are offering? 3 years? 4 years?? Is it $450-$500k a year? Assume we need to clear $$ for Langdon, Tomlinson and Elliott and any $$ rise for Frost is not within plans.

Bergman really is pushing up the charts. We thought we might be able to get steal him as a pick 35-40 but looking more likely to be 20-25 selection. I saw Hugo Ralphsmith and Charlie Dean at the Dragons and they looked like good quality youngsters.

Good call. He is not just a stand and kick type. Outstanding disposal but can also aerobically cover the ground. prefer Ash for his speed and Serong as a midfield/goalkicker

Who has Clarko improved? Ricky Henderson is not a bad example. Spud at the Crows. 2019 - he unbelievably had average 25 possessions as a rotating on/off midfielder. BoG v Pies with nearly 40 possessions if so recall not saying clarko can weave miracles but he may improve Frostys disposal and turn him into a top class attacking defender