
Ted Lasso
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Christian Petracca
Well i'd say if you're releasing a statement in response to reports, a good place to start would be addressing the reports. I understand he hasn't because clearly there is some truth to them, but he still could/imo should have addressed them I think as a supporter base at times we're very willing to just buy whatever the club is selling, this is the same CEO who went on SEN and said we have the best culture he's seen in 40 years at the same time the Clarry drama was playing out, which was clearly a laughable statement in reflection by any measure. We've got trade rumors around 3 of our stars, Trac, Viney and Oliver, shockingly low home game attendance, we've fallen out of the top 8 and most neutral supporters don't need to look too hard to realise things have been better at the club. Obviously he can't name names or give specifics around the concerns, but he can admit they exist and re-assure fans they'll do all they can to address them beyond speaking to players and coaches which is common place at every football club in the league every single off season regardless of the seasons outcome.
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Christian Petracca
Must say it doesn't inspire confidence.
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Kate Roffey
I must admit to feeling a little bit dissapointed that we've heard rumors of Clarry being traded, Trac wanting out, Viney being chased hard by north, all while we're losing games and the wheels feel like they're falling off and we have embarrassingly small crowds and we've not really heard from Roffey, Pert or Richardson at all. I am sure they're all doing enormous work behind the scenes, but publicly i think it would have shown some strength and stability if the leaders of the club got out there a little bit more. Mind you after the SEN interview with Goody and Pert i can definitely see the argument that he could make things worse rather than better.
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Christian Petracca
Regardless of what happens with Trac i think it's clear the club needs a full cultural re-set and a significant review conducted externally of the FD, if we are chasing Houston and going all in on another flag we need to make sure we're getting it right.
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Christian Petracca
it would be classic Tom Morris to suggest that noone visited Trac while he was in medical isolation because we just don't care about him haha. How this bloke got another gig in the media after his shameful comments and treatment of women is baffling, the guy is a joke.
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Christian Petracca
One thing you could bet your house on is that Simon Goodwin and Alan Richardson would have driven over to Tracs house tonight to talk all this through. Probably big Max as well.
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Christian Petracca
Just holistically, it's really difficult for me to see a way that Petracca could leave the Dees because of frustration due to the clubs direction and Simon Goodwin remain the head coach, the teams direction and spirit and the happiness of all players, but especially the star players is directly his responsibility.
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Christian Petracca
it's not as though it's difficult to see why players would be frustrated with a lot of what's happened since 2021. The way his injury was handled was really really ordinary, i don't think he was thrilled with how the clarry stuff was handled either.
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Captaincy
Gawn is the best Melbourne captain i can remember so i would say it's his role until he doesn't want it anymore. I would have said Gus was a real chance to be the next captain if not for his concussions unfortunately, the guy was the heart and soul of the club. if Gawn decided to give it away i would say it'd be a co-captains situation with Petracca, Viney and Lever.
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Revisionist History - Luke Jackson to Freo
We drafted him and he played a huge role in our drought breaking flag, and then he moved on respectfully and we got a solid return in the trade, we drafted him knowing the risks and i can't bring myself to regret any of this process.
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Dan Houston
The problem is that we actually have a really good drafting record under Jason Taylor, he has a lot more wins than busts, and if we recruit Dan Houston it perhaps makes us better for 2-3 years, but then the cliff comes and we are trying to rebuild right as Tasmania enters the league. I am all for recruiting Houston, but not if it means including pick 7 in the deal, we need to keep using our strong draft selections for the next 2-3 years to stay competitive and find our recruits outside of that.
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Trade Targets
I'd start this by saying there are very few circumstances where i'd even consider trading jack viney because it would be a culture killing disaster. But hypothetically, he's contracted and our vice captain, i'd be saying to North Melbourne if you want him it'll cost pick 2. if they don't like that deal they can find another veteran to try and pry out of a club.
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TRAINING: Friday 9th August 2024
I am so flattered.
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TRAINING: Friday 9th August 2024
In fairness, they're big boys. I suspect most people "Look up" to them ;)
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Trade Targets
Great bloke but on the decline as a footballer and has some baggage, i'd probably prefer us back in Turner, Jefferson and Van Rooyen.
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Darren Burgess Potential Return to Victoria
If he is interested in coming back move heaven and earth to get him back to the Dees, this guy is the absolute top of what he does and if he stayed i suspect we would have won 2-3 premierships. that's how big an impact he makes.
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Dan Houston
It's not one bad year though, it's documented long term behavioral issues and an inability to reach club standards over several years, it's been excused because of his quality as a player, but the club decided to put culture first and pull him into line. If after all of that we decide to revert back to just allowing the standards to slip what i can guarantee you is we will lose some of our really good players like Petracca, Lever and so on who were fed up with it, and additionally any chance of building the kind of culture Gary Pert dreamed that we had will be exactly zero. It doesn't matter how good the player is, if they don't want to do the right things, they need to go. I personally hope Clarry has turned a corner and he will be back to his best in 2024, but i absolutely stand by the common sense assertion that if he hasn't, the club should and i suspect will look to trade him. All indications as of right now are that he's made significant progress and he should be incredibly proud.
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Dan Houston
My gut feel on Oliver is it sits on a knifes edge, the club is backing him, but if he slips up i think he'll be traded. I am sure there are some within Olivers camp that probably think a fresh start might even be the right thing for him. I personally hope he has a full pre season and bounces back to his best next year, but i think we as a club will be okay regardless of which way this one goes.
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Dan Houston
I really like Langford and the dream of he and Petracca being goal kicking mids who go forward and make an impact, but i get the feeling he'll go in the top 5 and be just out of reach unfortunately.
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Dan Houston
i am 100% with you, i'd go as far as saying i wouldn't include pick 7 in the deal. there is no doubt he's a very good player, but given where we're at and the midfield talent in this draft i think that pick is gold for us. I'd look to offer something like our future first round pick and Tom Sparrow
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Welcome to Demonland Matthew Jefferson
I dunno picket! some of my best games have come against the bye. 😆
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Trade Targets
it's pretty putrid, i hope every single supporter of every club boo's him.
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Dan Houston
He's contracted so i think they'd just say no. maybe a future first and Tom Sparrow?
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Dan Houston
I think Port will 100% ask for 2 first round picks for him, but Pick 6 or whatever we have for Houston seems like a fair enough deal for both sides.
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Time to go Goody?
Simon Goodwin 9 years as coach Win %: 57.2 Finals win %: 50% 1x premiership 3x top 4 finishes 1x minor premiership 1x coach of the year award I think the thing i'd suggest posters consider is if you were offered this record at the beginning of his tenure, simply by virtue of the 1 premiership i think 99% of posters would take it without hesitation. The next part of this argument is, if we sacked him tomorrow, are we really better off with an untried coach over a coach with a nearly 60% win record? Unless we could somehow lure John Longmire, Chris Scott or Dimma i really don't see there being any benefit in sacking Goody as of right now.