Ted Lasso

What evidence do you have that anything happening with the players involved is the direct responsibility of the club and it's leaders? I've not seen a shred of evidence to suggest the blame should fall anywhere but at the feet of the individuals involved.

you're making a lot of assumptions here.

Agnus is worth minimum 16 first round picks.

Nothing but respect for a Demons legend!

I agree with you, but if you look at Geelong, who are held up as being arguably the benchmark for football culture in modern AFL history, their most recent 20 years has included a lot of years when they've dominated home and away and not quite been rewarded on the level they probably expected. I think the reason has a lot more to do with how difficult premierships are to win and how much you need going right for you to win them, then it does anything the cats have done or their culture.

I agree some early wins will certainly take the wind out of the sails of a media that doesn't seem to rate truth and credibility anywhere near as highly as it should. I think there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic about what we might be able to achieve this year, we will need a lot of things to fall our way, but that's not different to any other year. I find it incredibly interesting the talk of deep cultural issues being linked to a team with 3 consecutive top 4 finishes, a premiership in the AFL, VFL and AFLW, stability on all levels, record membership, the vast majority of required players re-signing long term and year on year profits. I'd say with a reasonable degree of confidence most other clubs would absolutely love to have this sort of a record. What i've stated is fact though, it's not media hyperbole. we've had an incredibly successful 3 year period by virtually all measures and realistically we've probably underachieved slightly based on what a club in our position is capable of. it's very hard to marry that up with the suggestion we are an absolute basket case with massive cultural problems.

I still think we're pretty comfortably in the best 4 teams barring a bad run with injuries so i've got us top 4. i honestly don't think we're that far off being the benchmark again, if we see a 20% improvement in our efficiency inside 50 and our conversion i think we're playing in a grand final.

You couldn't have nailed this any more, i don't think 2023 Collingwood was an especially great team by any measure, but geez they're well coached and they just win the big moments because they obviously drill those into the players. in both finals guys tried to rip the game away from opposition when we didn't need to, we had dominance for long periods in both games, we just needed to hold our nerves.

He reminds me so much of Clarry when he first arrived, strange guy, bit rough around the edges but he's got a bit of animal about him. pretty excited to see what he can become.

2022 and 2023 are examples of what will continue to happen if we don't take a step back and correct the deficiencies in our gameplan and on our list. I said at the end of this season i don't think we can win another flag with our current list and gameplan and i stand by it, we need to re-shape the whole list and tweak the game plan to keep up with the modern game, we are making top 4 on talent and being exposed by teams that are just simply doing it better than us.

I think this is logical, especially given the profile of our list, given JVR is still so young, as is Petty and the entire core still has 6-7 years left a mini re-set could allow us to push for more flags, continuing the same course would likely see us consistent contenders, and maybe we'd pinch another flag, but we'd need a lot of luck. My concern with this, is the risk it carries is that if Gawn or May suffers a significant long term injury, we're in a lot of trouble, we'll be relying on trade/free agency and a very aggressive pursuit of an opposition star

you can just tell he's going to be our Tom Papley or Jack Ginnivan, opposition teams will absolutely hate him haha

Happy with Windsor, a little dissapointed we didn't take Leake. trust JT and the team know what they're doing.

Unless it's go home factor, which would explain why they want him, but other clubs decided to pass.

If Curtin actually slides to 10 there is a reason for it, perhaps something in his testing has sent out some red flags

I wonder if the Cats would consider 11 plus our future first to move up to 8? if so a combination of Windsor and Leake/Caddy/O'Sullivan/Curtin looks pretty good.

Pick 6. Caddy Pick 11. Tholstrup

Have heard his work rate on and off the field is absolutely off the charts, a bit like Alex Neal-Bullen in this regard, he will get absolutely everything out of himself. It's pretty clear we're interested in that explosive forward-mid type which makes sense, it's a more valuable type of player in the modern game

I also think Nathan Jones should be mentioned, he was such a gigantic figure when the club was absolutely on it's knees, it's a real shame he wasn't out there in 2021

The thing with guys like McKercher is his one wood is his kicking skills, it's tricky to predict how that'll go in the AFL with much higher pressure and a game played a lot faster where you don't get time and space

You don't think 2018-2023 has been a successful period for the CEO, given it's included rolling operating profits, membership growth of just shy of 30,000 and a premiership in the AFL, VFL and AFLW? I reckon he deserves a little bit of credit... say what you will about the SEN interview, i will acknowledge it could have gone better, but i guarantee you it meant an enormous amount to Goody and the players that the CEO would go in to bat for them, the club and the culture like that, and i additionally guarantee he did it for them, not for us or the general public.

He's a very very good player, but i think it's a combination of him being slightly one dimensional in a time when you have to be absolutely elite to get away with that in the modern game, and the teams around his mark having positional needs

The Pies have been training the [censored] out of these situations and it's really showed, it's not just pure luck that they keep winning close games, they've build an incredibly strong defense to keep them in games even when it's not all on their terms and have this trump card to win these really close games. it's very very clever

I just listened and that sounded to me like a bit of a "do the deal eagles" jab. mind you i wouldn't be completely unhappy if we did happen to grab Curtin at 6, though i'm one of the people who really like the look of him as a key forward, he's a good key back, but just something about him as a forward really caught my eye

The McKercher vs Duursma battle is interesting although not really related to pick 1 at this stage, I honestly think the pending Tasmanian license would be a thought in the minds of teams looking at Tassie guys in this draft, they'll come in with an open cheque book and you'd think that Colby McKercher with a few years development is going to be right up the point y end of their targets. I don't know if this is significant enough to lean one way or the other with the above pair, but i think the two recent expansion teams have shown that really good, big name players can be lured out by expansion clubs and big deals. Hense the MFC locking up all their players long term and the Pies getting the Daicos boys locked away early