Ted Lasso

I thought Windsor showed some class and composure at times, but really we didn't have very many winners on the day. I really hope Goody doesn't try the inaccuracy excuse for this one, the Pies were clearly the better team

There is nothing worse than losing to Collingwood, but putting up an effort like that after what they did to Gus really hurts, it feels like the soul of the club is gone, the players don't seem to want to actually fight anymore.

I definitely think there would be some benefit in shaking up the off field and the game plan, it seems we need to re-load if we are going to be a serious contender again anytime soon

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The best way to honor Gus today is to beat the Pies

Bont has a real knack of going missing in games when the Dogs are battling.

Not much better of an apprenticeship than to learn and take over from max gawn

I have to respectfully disagree with this, multiple years of consistent finals didn't impact the fitness levels of Richmond or Hawthorn when they had dynasty eras, even Port Adelaide, Brisbane and Geelong have consistently contended without any major concerns around their fitness that i've seen. It's really difficult to give an informed opinion without knowing the layout of our pre-season and the numbers of the players throughout it, but it's certainly something that really needs to be reviewed by the club if there has been some drop off in this space. I've said this a few times however, and it's that we average between 9-13 players 24 years and younger every single game this year and a lot of thoes guys are 18-21. It does take time to build fitness to a level to handle the rigors of an AFL season, and potentially a few of the young guys might get some level of a pass, but i would be interested to see the fitness levels of some of the senior players compared to previous years.

Every team will be doing this to us every week now, we are going to have to reinvent ourselves to remain competitive

North Melbourne would be closer to Fremantle than we are right now. let that sink in.

we could lose by 120 points here, there is absolutely no excuse for a list with the talent we have to EVER perform this poorly, but especially against a team that sits outside the top 8 on what is meant to be our home away from home. The coaches need to go away and have a good hard look at things and make sure we're actually on the right track. the players look confused, frustrated and unhappy

I am defintiely not out of sympathy with the call that the midfield is a huge area of concern especially with the talent we have and the output consistently being well below what you'd expect. being ranked 11th for clearances with a midfield containing Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Gawn and so on is really strange. in saying that i think our issues run quite deep, i find it baffling that since 2018 when we lose, the losses generally look very very similar but it's hard to identify any obvious shift in game style to correct this. I'll forever be grateful for Simon Goodwin in delivering us the first premiership in 57 years and we've had 3 consecutive top 4 finishes which obviously isn't horrible, but i do wonder how this list would perform under a different coach, for example if someone like Craig McRae had hold of this list would we be a better side?

We haven't been able to Win the ball on the inside win the ball on the outside defend ball movement defend slow entries move the ball turn the ball over effectively lay tackles win contested marks and much more. hard to name a single thing that's been AFL standard in this first half

I know he's a premiership coach, but when you consistently lose the same way the pressure is going to come on Goodwin sooner rather than later.

Geez some of our supposedly elite mids are lazy. Roosy came in with the goal of teaching them to be 2 way running mids and they've very clearly forgotten a lot of that. If you watch the mids of Sydney compared to Melbourne the contrast is insane

we have no offensive system at all and the amount of lazy, long bomb kicks is embarrassing, we would do 10-15 for every 1 that Freo do and it's really showing

When you've got arguably the best ruckman in the history of the game and multiple generally considered elite midfielders and you sit 11th for clearances, it's either by design or something is seriously wrong.

Goody likes to be best mates with all the players and it's generally a good thing, but far out these players need a good old fashioned spray. they're far too good to be making stupid mistakes so consistently

A huge part of this is coaching, the players have no idea when to go fast, when to be composed and when to go long down the line, especially the younger guys.

far far too easy for Fremantle here, you don't see many genuine premiership contenders that have patches this poor

We've just gifted them 2 goals with below AFL standard skills in perfect footy conditions, it's a real concern.

If i was to offer advice to Goody and the MFC about how to approach this it would be simple, - the best way to honor Gus even against a fake tough guy like this is to beat the Pies on the kings birthday stage with class and integrity, don't get distracted by Maynard or anything they say to May, just beat them, bank the win and move on towards another premiership tilt. there is nothing we can say or do that's going to undo what happened to Gus, or really matter to Maynard/Collingwood given their injuries, the only real chance they have of beating us is if we get distracted and worry about things other than the game.

Shame Harmes is out of the game, he could have finished the job for his mate Gussy

To be fair, AMW would probably be captain of North Melbourne or St Kilda by now.

Don't humanise the enemy 31.