Diamond_Jim

doubt it .. especially if the dollar differences are of the magnitude that Sheils and Gaff have been offered. Each had an approximately $2 million differential Scully made the right choice. If there is complaint it is only about how he handled it. Personally I give an 18-19 year old some leeway. The real question with the teams that are paying the $1.2M a year for non specialised positions is what it does to salary levels across that team. There's a lot more to play out on that stage especially for clubs with star midfields.

What do people think Collingwood will get if they trade Moore? The level of that pick could be a key determinant for what we have to offer GCS given the Pies are after May.

I'd sign him up for 2 years now ie his existing one plus one more. I doubt he would sign for three at the money we would offer now. At the end of 2019 assuming Cox does not star Collingwood will come very hard with some big dollars. If we can lock him down until end of 2020 Collingwood may go elsewhere. If Weideman scores 50 goals plus in 2019 watch his contract value rocket. This frankly is the only part of the Hogan trade that worries me.

Must say I thought that about 2018 in that he would redefine the role of CHF. It didn't happen in reality. Bit like Petracca didn't have a break out year. Nothing is certain in this world

why would he feel or be made to feel uncomfortable. Players come and go at all clubs every year. It's the way

I keep hearing that there are around 20 "name players" potentially on the move this trading season. That number may cause the going rates to drop simply because there are less draft picks floating in the trade system that clubs are willing to give up. (Badly expressed but think about it.) Trading season will be very complicated if they are trying to get away 20 "name deals". It usually around 3-4. Admittedly a couple of the 20 are FA's that don't of themselves require trades but on trading of the draft picks may.

With the formula they may well get higher compensation than they can get under a trade. Hawks would not have offered us pick 3 for Frawley. Sometimes the formula works in favour of the giving club.

6 and say 16 for Kelly... where do we sign !!

Must admit I was thinking the same as LH but Redleg's comments makes sense. Here's an extract from the AFL site: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-13/boost-for-kolodjashnij-in-concussion-struggle After the above article from June he has played 4 games so he's not been a "required player" in a struggling side. Was he injured again? A step up on Balic but has a similar feel. As others have mentioned a possible Lewis replacement. Would be great to see a fairy tale ending

Believe me it's been tried but it doesn't work. The more juicy possibility though is selling your image/marketing rights to an offshore entity. Works well for the big multi international soccer stars Trouble is the AFL rules are a little tough there and other than for a very few there's not much money in marketing for AFL players. A family member as your diary keeper etc is a common dodge but it's small beer.

a digression but can you be drafted by an NFL club outside the college system? If so why do the top players play for nothing for three years. Many of the "name" basketballers now seem to bypass College. Thanks

The debate there will be about how much of his salary we need to pay. Amazing drop in form.

if Hogan can demand $1.2M and Lynch $1.4m per year what are the rest worth. hell gaff is commanding $1M plus. Check out Cameron by the way there's a west wind coming PS: If Cox doesn't fire big time I can assure you Pies will offer $1M x5 or more for the Weid end of next year

Santa Claus is a myth but don't tell anyone. Club loyalty is dying as well. These players have 10 years top to deliver what should set them up for the rest of their lives if they are good enough.

One million.... that's the currency for a modern key forward. Riewodlt took a million dollar pay cut (250k times 4 for example) so they could draft Lynch at 1.2M p.a plus... (think again)

Tom Boyd? Buddy? Roughead? Riewodlt? Kennedy? Lynch? Patton/Cameron and the list goes on every one of them $1M plus Sure they are not the panacea of three years ago but a key forward is where the big money's at. Why would you be one of three when you can be the big Cohuna elsewhere. The anomaly is Joe Daniher... rumored to have signed for around $660k.. why I'm not sure What would Geelong pay for a forward come 2020

can we swap fifth and sixth rounders... my simplistic understanding is that the draft continued ad infinitum until all clubs had passed

would love to do better but this is the way it's looking unless we can shake Shiels or better free

and that is how many of us raised this topic and why the trade is very much alive... Jesse will not sign this year apparently. Time to live with trades.... they aren't going to decrease if the AFLPA have their way. BTW I think Hurley and Natinui's year must be just about due for UFA next year.

I can understand the sentiment but you need to consider what we offer vs the Saints. He can refuse a one year or a one plus one deal from us (would you offer more) and stand out thus allowing himself to be picked up by the Saints in the second draft (whatever it's called these days). No one is likely to poach him. This is one where we can and need to be generous just like Freo were with us and Balic last year.

are you referring to Le Cras?

yeah but they are or each will be million dollar players.. can we afford them If Weideman performs in 2019 (50 goals) he will be a million dollar renewal. We got Tom Mac on the cheap (or a little cheaper) because he's not a long recognised forward.

Can he be traded if he is out of contract? I suspect if a trade is required it is a nominal trade in that Saints will offer us a pick that we will not use.

If Hogan signed with MFC tomorrow we would probably be offering Weideman this year or next for a first rounder plus. In this day and age you simply can't carry, game or salary cap wise, three key forwards. Hogan not signing practically decided for us what may have been a difficult choice. If you want to see what salary cap does to an unbalanced list have a look at GWS. They had planned for a premiership last year and this year. Now they look like having to unload Scully, Sheils and Lobb to ameliorate their salary cap issues.

Name me anyone who should have been in the 22 in his stead this year