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please continue... K) Emselle

F= Oliver ... please sir may I have some more

note the punctuation marks .... get with the modern grammar rules my friend

JKH's elevation really put the writing on the wall for Bugg and others. Still not a fan of JKH.. depth at best but for Bugg to be behind him in the mind of the selectors.... enough said (For those who say they played different positions...Bugg mainly played as an on baller for Casey same as JKH). If you looked hard we had a decent VFL side in 2018 but very few put the acid on for senior selection. With the new look Casey side I hope that changes. BTW has Billy Stretch started training yet? Hope not but I suspect he could be looking for greener pastures come end of 2019 season.

keep a watch as many have recently been bought in by a quarter. The pace of the roll out really picked up in the second half of 2018

NBN should be fully rolled out by end of 2019 save for those premises deemed difficult which should all be finished by end 2020. Aussie Broadband is the favourite provider these days because it limits it subscribers and in most cases you get the speed that you pay for. It has a $55 a month for 100 Gbs a month with a speed of 25mbs and unlimited at $69 a month also with 25mbs speed. A bit more than $40 but it will allow streaming at the highest level. The GB cap could be an issue as streaming in standard definition eats up about 1Gb an hour whereas streaming in HD eats up about 3GB per hour as I understand it. From the Kayo thread on Whirlpool they were saying if I recall you needed a minimum speed of around 7-8 mbs to run it.My ADSL is closer to 3mbs and thus it's no go for me at present.

Are you on the NBN RBG? I'm still on ADSL so kayo is not for me at present. Should have NBN by the second half of this year at which time the product definitely interests me.

My name sake seemed to typify the Melbourne I have followed for so long. Promise but in the end nothing. Living in hope of a change

An interesting perspective Jako as Foxtel are trying desperately to ensure that this new product does not canibalise their existing Foxtel brand. I suspect that even if they are moderately successful it will mean the end of any growth in Foxtel as most of their new subscribers would have been gained as a result of their sports broadcasts. The Kayo product will not be as good as the foxtel product simply because Foxtel are hamstrung with the deal they have done to share digital rights with Telstra. It will make for a very robust negotiation next time the rights are up for grabs. One also must ask if this product is extremely successful will the FTA stations continue to engage in their unholy partnership with pay TV that has now pervaded cricket, soccer (A League) and football. As they say we live in "interesting times."

no but naming Hunt in the backline shows they really don't know the team.

Now that's a good question. ?

Just thought I would bump this thread and mention a couple of things being discussed on the whirlpool forum (link in post above) now at 170 pages. Still no android app for your television so one needs to use a device to stream it to your TV. (It was suggested that the TV app would be out by the end of 2018.) On the AFL coverage it seems that it will be the coverage that was available on Foxtel Now and not the Foxtel set top box coverage. This means when Channel 7 shows a match you get their feed and I assume the replay is delayed. Lots of talk about connectivity but in the main most seem happy with the streaming quality. A few complaints about the What's on capability and how it can be difficult to browse between the multiple offerings.

it has apparently been in the development mode for a few years before it went under. On a wider note it does raise the question of whether you can use sport to monetize social media. The stories one reads about youtube millionaires etc never ceases to amaze me

how they got $4M of seed capital and then burned it all through and went under owing another $1M is fascinating to say the least. I can see the idea working in soccer perhaps for some of the mega stars but you would have to be a rather devoted AFL or NRL supporter to pay to get the inner thoughts and doings of your favourite player. Then again I doubt that I was ever the intended market ?

Can't say the business case would have thrilled me on this product given the relatively small market. Andy, those Demonland podcasts must be worth a fortune "20Four, a new social media platform designed to rival Instagram and Twitter by giving sports fans access to videos shot by their favourite athletes as they trained, prepared for games, and went about their lives, collapsed in late December." "20Four Media was founded in 2015 and it embarked on a pre-IPO investor roadshow in late 2016. It never reach the point of listing, but corporate documents show it raised more than $4 million from investors. The app was the brainchild of Carlton AFL player and former board member Adrian Gleeson, who is now executive director of ASX-listed building services company John Lyng Group, and AFL player agent Anthony McConville." https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/sports-stars-owed-thousands-after-social-media-start-up-collapse-20190104-p50pk7.html

A curates egg is my take on 2018. Better by far than 2017 but it always seemed that we were not quite there. The thumping we took in the preliminary final and the 3 goals 8 from Hawthorn's Gunston somewhat tempered my thoughts on what was a satisfying finals campaign. Anyway it's over and I expect a lot better in 2019. This is the list that should deliver. Let's hope it does.

Recalling the way the news came in that Boxing day... it was just a growing disaster. Cannot think of any other natural event that killed so many people. RIP Troy and so many others who perished that day in terrible circumstances.

Shubho Borodin my friends

I would gladly subscribe to Kayo if only they had a no commentary selection or even a low key commentary selection. AFL commentary teams could really take a leaf out of the soccer commentaries. Come to think of it the NFL commentaries are generally low key as well. Not sure why we need all the artificial hype.

IIIRC Eddie bought the old ABC broadcast vans and got the contract to telecast the VFL games for Seven. Wonder how this decision affects the contract. Perhaps also the vans are getting a little old and require major investment. My cynical self is wary of a further downgrading of the VFL product.

as mentioned it's a money saving exercise by seven. Interesting thing was that the televised VFL match was on Saturday and these are being televised on Sunday. I assume no Saturday televised VFL on the weekends of the Sunday game. VFL games call out for streaming... a few fixed cameras and some IT ... commentary optional... would be a very cheap product.

One has to wonder about how close the club is to the wheels of power. This plan had pipe dream written all over it from day 1. Can't think of one group that came out in favour. Politics 101... perception and short term perception is where it's at. The best spin is that it was an ambit claim and that we are now going for option B but you really have to wonder.

don't get too excited... around 60 games per year on the MCG and they are offering 4 VFL games "An agreement, in principle, struck on Monday between the Melbourne Cricket Club (MCC) and AFL sees four VFL fixtures set for the MCG prior to AFL matches next year. In a boost for fans, it will also result in the AFL reducing the time between the end of a curtain-raiser and the start of an AFL matches from around 60 minutes to a minimum of 35-45 minutes." And why is it happening: AFL.com.au understands the move was originally raised by Channel Seven in a cost-saving strategy to create a VFL-AFL double header prior to their broadcast Sunday 3.20pm AFL game.

I'd like to know a little more on that score. If true it's simply abhorrent. The pressure on boys/young men to perform is enormous in this game. Add to that the world of social media and it is an unbelievable cauldron.

In my childhood days I also worked at various football grounds mainly as a purveyor of overpriced lollies and drinks. At some grounds my employer also had the pie selling franchise... it was "hands on" to say the least. My favourite memories were of the hot dog selling ladies where the southern stand joined the northern stand. They had a 44 gallon drum or similar full of water with a gas ring beneath it. Into this marvellous tub went the hot dogs ... soon to emerge as items of culinary delight. If it was a good earning day which wasn't often we would treat ourselves to a bag of jam donuts after work. If I think about it the food at the MCG hasn't really come on that much in 40 plus years.