Lucifers Hero

I thought it meant his contract would never end

Is it possible he is part of the Hibberd player/pick trade that Mahoney talked about this morning? Can't believe I'm about to say this: Trading Garland would free up a list spot to upgrade Wagner or Smith. Garland is someone whose loyalty has been over and above the call of duty. Up there with Trengove, N. Jones, Watts and Grimes when it comes to loyalty. Would be so sad if he was to go out 'free to a good home'.

With great pleasure, fndee! Agree with your priorities. Wagner or Smith might get an upgrade soon. Getting Jesse's signature is as good as landing the much talked about BIG FISH!!

Mahoney on SEN this morning (paraphrasing): Focus in recent years to go to the draft, especially midfielders. Now have a sound midfield Focus is defence - Melksham and Hibberd will be good experience. We are also looking to get a ruck/forward Dunn indicated frustrated at not getting a senior game and will look at opportunities. So will trade if he finds another club. Dawes' future depends on results of trade week. We won't be as active in the trade period this year. Re Hibbered: might be our pick 26 but it could involve other picks/players The Hibberd trade looks a bit cryptic - wonder what that deal might look like. The interview clarifies a few things being thrown around in the media and speculation sites. Good to hear it from the 'horse's mouth', so to speak.

Mahoney on SEN this morning, (paraphrasing): Club confident Jesse would want to stay, despite recent speculation No ultimatum ever put to Jesse Think Hogan and Weideman can be a lynch pin for us for years to come Hogan, in his exit interview, was very disappointed with his last 5 weeks and keen to have a big 2017 Good to see all the rubbish written about an 'ultimatum' put to bed!

Jesse will have a press conference in Perth @ 4.30 EST. Looking forward to hearing him declare himself a Demon! Now, the club can really get its list management strategy going. Just a couple more key players to lock down. Go Dees!!

Not unless they change the FA period to 6 years before then.

Its official: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-10-04/hogan-locked-in-until-end-of-2019 Opened a new thread as this is full of so much rubbish! thanks Jesse

HOGAN LOCKED IN UNTIL END OF 2019 Delighted he has signed on. Will take a lot of pressure off him and I'm sure we will see him fulfill his potential to be a champ, in the red and the blue! Thanks Jesse! Jesse's comments: “What excites me about Melbourne is the young talent we’ve got. We feel like we are building something special and that’s something I want to be a part of...“Goody (Simon Goodwin) has been great; we’ve got a really close relationship and I think he is going to be great for me personally next year and the rest of the boys as well". Thanks Goody!

Not really, an earlier poster mentioned you hadn't started a thread before. Sons of the West...very good title change, after all it was the players who failed their fans.

True. He actually got BOG from the coaches voting in the 'Gary Ayers Medal' for the GF game.

You can change the title: click on 'Edit' in your opening post and change the title line. I agree there is no reason to have Beveridge's name in the title, 'Bulldog's 'Heroes' - weak effort' might do the trick!. Or whatever your mischievous mind comes up with Good thread bbo, to call them out after all the faux humility of the last week.

Collingwood are no longer interested in him. Western Bulldog Lin Jong weighing up offer from Gold Coast Suns as Collingwood withdraws Beveridge has shown he can make the tough gutsy calls: suspended Boyd and Cordy, dropped Stringer. We will never know if Lin Jong showing his intentions cost him his spot in the GF. But if the decision was 50/50, even 60/40 in his favour, between him and a player who was loyal and committed to and trusted by his mates and the team (which is what they thrive on) that Beveridge would back the loyal player. I would say Lin Jong has paid a high price for venturing into enemy territory during the year and showing his hand early. Moral of the story: don't trust Collingwood.

Just can't see that happening: Perceptions: they are from the under underprivileged West; we as the silver tails who go skiing with kids at private schools. Flags: they have won only one flag; we have 12 (albeit the last was 1964). GF's: they have not been in a GF for 50+ years; we were there in 2000. Media: Everyone in the media loves them; for us there is no love lost from many media folk. Fans: WB have all of Western Victoria cheering for them, demanding to be heard; our fans are scattered far and wide. Competition: WB played an interstate team who have dominated finals for the last 10 years - the team everyone loves vs a team people love to hate Fairy tale: It was a David and Goliath story and the media and the AFL played that tune beautifully; throw in the aussie love for the underdogs vs the tall poppy and the fairy tale is complete!! Struggle: The bulldogs clawed their way thru adversity; we stuffed up our club and were bailed out by the AFL. Club Representative's personal history: Their spokespeople (Gordon, Smorgon, Susan Alberti etc) are long standing, passionate and pained bulldogs, ours (Jackson, Mahoney) are administrators and even our low profile president is a johnny-come-lately to the demon's flock. Lastly, but perhaps the most significant in most people's eyes we 'tanked'. They will never let us forget. Some of those may be more significant than others but we would not have a fraction of the bulldog's support. That is just the way it is. And, to be honest I don't really mind what all other fans/media/AFL think. The flag will be enough!

Totally agree 'Of'! I put this in another thread a few hours ago: "It made me realise that we the only club that doesn't have a 'heartland - a geographic area and suburban oval to call home. Think: Punt Rd oval, Victoria Park, Princes Park, Waverley, Kardinia Park, Arden St, Windy Hill, and soon Moorabbin oval for the Saints etc. Gosch's paddock and Casey Fields just don't cut it. When we win the Premiership we will certainly flock to somewhere but its sad that our great club does not have an obvious geographic place to call home - a place which is ours and nobody else's; a place that means something to the locals as well as to us die hard dees fans". So I think it is not just our own football oval we lack, we lack a geographic region, a 'heartland' connected to our club. Somehow we surrendered the inner Melbourne heartland. Even with the new AFL 'Next Generation' Academy we don't get any of it back. It mainly goes to Essendon with a small bit to Geelong and St Kilda. The only real opportunity I see to have anything like the other clubs is to work with whoever 'owns' Toorak Park (where we hold some family nights) to have a strong presence. It is where the club is trying to rebuild our 'heartland' support but it has no historical connection to us. Altho' that could change if it was renamed the 'Robbie Flower Oval' and we trained there. Failing that we are destined to be nomads.

The lady's first post is above, bb.

Quite right - he had poor form in the first half of the season. Then he was suspended (for a fight with teammate Cordy) and made the senior side for round 17. He has played well since and had really good games for the last of the 3 finals with a breakout game in the GF. He has said the suspension was the kick up the backside he needed and hasn't looked back. Time will tell if he is a 'one finals series wonder'. I suspect he is on his way to an outstanding career. Good on him. And I reckon Jesse will have an equally outstanding career

Why? Because we now have the dubious honour of the longest premiership drought. Other team supporters haven't seen that for a while either. Yes, I also want the feeling of finals success, the GF build up (2000 was a very good year) and winning the Premiership etc but I don't care who wins the flag if it is not the Demons. Nor do I care too much about other team's fairy tales. So, very easy to be neutral.

I was fairly neutral about who won yesterday and while I couldn't get too excited about it all I really noticed the 'bulldogs mania'. But what made me sad is the bulldogs have something we will never have: They have a heartland - the Western suburbs which galvanised its support. Whole suburbs were decked out in red white and blue. They have their suburban home, the Western oval, their spiritual home to which their fans flocked to this week and will do today to celebrate. A spiritual home which they can permanently deck out with their past heroes and stories. It made me realise that we the only club that doesn't have a 'heartland - a geographic area and suburban oval to call home. Think: Punt Rd oval, Victoria Park, Princes Park, Waverley, Kardinia Park, Arden St, Windy Hill, and soon Moorabbin oval for the Saints etc. Gosch's paddock and Casey just don't cut it. When we win the Premiership we will certainly flock to somewhere but its sad that our great club does not have an obvious geographic place to call home - a place which is ours and nobody else's; a place that means something to the locals as well as to us die hard dees fans.

Yes, the title should have the adjective 'dubious' precede 'honour'.

Points in the bank? Boyd stood up in a finals series and the GF. Almost won it off his own boot. Doesnt get any better than that. Hogan has yet to win a H&A game off his own boot.

Just goes to show what genuine belief and perseverance can do.

Disappointing that neither Dunn nor Garland made the top 10.

Someone must have realised the problem - this is the cup after the parade!

If I was a swannies supporter I wouldn't be impressed having the dogs colours on both sides of the cup!!! Surely it can't be a mistake...AFL letting its prejudices show, again?