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  1. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-afl-owes-women-so-much-more-20161015-gs35j1.html The hashtag #bootsoff is to draw attention to the measly pay for female players in the AFWL. For most it is $5,000 for the whole season! It is difficult to argue with this: "Every woman playing in the AFL Women's first season should, as a base rate, be paid the Australian minimum full-time wage for their training and playing period November to the end of March – which would amount to about $14,500." Even that is a trifling amount, in my book. Nonetheless it would be an improvement. So, no-one is saying they should be paid what the male AFL players earn. Far from it! But to be paid less than the minimum wage is just wrong! The article draws attention to what women playing professionally in other sports, earn: Under Netball Australia's new pay deal, players in the domestic competition earn a minimum wage of $27,370 and an average of $67,500 The NSW women's cricket team will earn at least the minimum wage of $35,000 The AFL recently announced a major sponsorship of the AFWL by NAB. Where will this money go? The AFL should be ashamed to ask players to pay for their boots and health insurance from the measly $5,000. So AFL do the right thing, otherwise one wonders whether all this is just tokenism and an opportunity to get some good PR and for the AFL to feel warm and fuzzy. Well, that PR may quickly turn south if they don't rectify this pay problem!! #bootsoff
  2. Gr8 news, Gen dee. As for 'source' you have more than enough credibilty on here you don't need to give that info to doubters, imo. Keep up the good work!
  3. Exactly why they are desperate! And desperate people do desperate things! It may not be Ollie but wouldn't be surprised to see one of their better mids head to where the sunshine is! GCS will be agitating for mids from somewhere - they have too many picks (vs list spots) to take to the draft and they don't need their 1st rounders to get their Academy players. Later draft points will do. Will keenly watch what they do.
  4. Are Port still in the AFL? After the Hartlett fire sale fell thru they have gone to ground... Licking wounds? Imploding? Getting ready to fire up again? They are supposedly desperate to get into the draft; current picks: 9, 49, 67, 85, 103, 121. I wouldn't be surprised if they start wheeling and dealing with GCS who will have a juicy set of first round picks to offload. GCS current picks: 4, 8, 22, 24, 26, 30, 44, 62, 80, 98, 116. They will get 6 and 10 for Prestia and O'Meara then give (say 10) for Hanley. So GCS then have 4, 6, 8 in the first round and are known to want midfielders! Also, the middle picks (draft points) they have will get them their Academy player so taking the the first round picks to the draft is a 'waste' for them... SEN did mentioned whispers about Ollie Wines during the week but didn't follow up. Would be insane if Port let him go but would they if they could 2 get top 10 picks for him? Note: this is complete and total hypothesising on my part - Saturday entertainment But Port is desperate and have been quite for too long and something is brewing...
  5. Current pick status is: Hawthorn: 10, 57, 68, 70, 88, 90, 108, 126 Melbourne: 29, 48, 66, 84, 102, 120 Can't see us giving up pick 29. So the discussion is 48, 66, 84. Of course Hawks want 48 at least, to save face. By all accounts the Hawks (except apparently the Board after supporter agitation) are happy for him to go. And, given that Mitchell went for 88 one would think it is 66 or 84.
  6. Additional cap space this year from player departures, especially of Grimes and probably Dawes, both on big $$$. This year or next year more cap space available from player departures especially of Dunn and probably Lumumba, again both on big $$$. I would guess those guys add to somewhere close to $1.5m in cap space. I think our cap will be fine.
  7. Yep, can confirm this about Abe. Via pm he has told me that Watts would stay, the Trengove and Tyson deals and a few others. More recently about the Hogan contract. Abe is well connected in the industry. But you won't see him blurt stuff on forums before they are official. He just hints at things, so folks need to read between the lines or just trust him.
  8. Stephen Quartermain Verified account ‏@Quartermain10 The @WestCoastEagles reveal @HawthornFC will be paying part of Sam Mitchell's salary next year. Deal of the century! Methinks, Hawthorn have lost the plot!!
  9. I meant that North (and Hawks) blindsided their legends ala Harvey (Lewis) so other players may be disillusioned ala Wells and perhaps Goldstein. Ummm...you can pm me re the bit about friction in the playing group if you like...please
  10. SEN said they had the mfc statement and chose to only read the line I quoted. Am checking the club website for a copy. Edit: SEN just read out a bit more of mfc's statement - couldn't type fast enough but the additional bit was that Lewis approached the Dees or words to that effect. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/we-remain-interested-dees-still-sniffing-around-lewist
  11. MFC have issued a statement saying 'we understand that Jordan is a contracted player but we remain interested'! Translation: He is on his way!! Edit 1: Source SEN who apparently have mfc's complete statement. Edit 2: Here is the statement: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/we-remain-interested-dees-still-sniffing-around-lewis The pertinent part: "We received an approach from Jordan Lewis’s management earlier this week regarding the possibility of him joining Melbourne. This was after discussions Jordan had with Hawthorn," the statement read..."We understand that Jordan is contracted to Hawthorn, but we remain interested in looking at this option." Makes it pretty clear we did not do the chasing despite the picture Hawthorn are trying to paint! Well done mfc to not let the Hawks paint us as the bad guys to save their own skin!!
  12. Todd Viney - the gift that keeps on giving: " It's understood Lewis' link to the Demons stemmed from a strong relationship with former Hawks assistant and now Melbourne player personnel manager Todd Viney. Lewis mentored Viney's son, and now Demons star Jack Viney during Jack's days playing in the TAC Cup: . http://www.theage.com.au/afl/hawthorn-hawks/afl-trades-2016-hawthorn-say-jordan-lewis-wants-to-stay-despite-melbourne-hopes-20161014-gs2lnm.html Its almost like Lewis is one of the Dees family!
  13. While we are all looking at the Hawks it seems that Goldstein may be on the move: "A source close to the Kangaroos told WAtoday Goldstein wants out of the Roos because of a personal issue and was seriously considering moving west". http://www.theage.com.au/afl/west-coast-eagles/afl-trade-week-shock-is-roos-ruckman-todd-goldstein-heading-to-west-coast-20161014-gs2gd7.html Hawks and North have both blindsided their players. Moral of the story: No surprises- a club can be ruthless but treat your veterans with respect or else other players will be looking for the exit!
  14. It was reported yesterday that Jordan Lewis selected the Demons as his (only) club to approach and that Hogan was a major attraction (paraphrasing the story). Even if the Lewis trade does not happen, that he has said that goes a long way to making us a 'destination' club. It is reasonable to think that other players will think, '...gee if Lewis thinks that maybe we should have a closer look...' Lewis did us a big big favour nominating the Dees! Put us on the radar, so to speak! The value of Jesse's signature cannot be underestimated in making us a 'destination' club. Mahoney alluded to that at the time of the announcement.
  15. Yes, 'time will tell' with just about every post on Demonland! In the meantime I'm happy to see the spotlight on the smug Hawks for a change, sit back and enjoy it. Popcorn time! For too long the spotlight was on us for even the most trivial things. It feels really good for us to be the dignified club, which didn't leak and even now has refrained from making any comment to anyone in the media while the mighty Hawks are scrambling and in 'damage control'...yes, very dignified by the Demons to say nothing even after the news broke!
  16. I assume that means the Hawks board - they probably flipped yesterday when it hit the news and pulled the plug. Clarkson may start to feel some heat from the media, fans and his club for the first time in his coaching career. 'Midas' no longer.
  17. Hawks re-contracted Burgoyne, Hodge, Mitchell, Gibson this year, when they were 2 games clear on top of the ladder, perhaps thinking they had the 4th flag in the bag. That may well go down as their biggest blunder! Then our baby Demons came along and beat them playing fast, relentless football, giving them a view of the future and we started their fall from the top of the ladder. Then they watched GWS dismantle Sydney the same way and must have been shocked to see WBD run and run their way to the flag. Clarkson saw the fast running football of the future and didn't like his chances of competing. So he started reneging on the deals with his champions sowing the seeds for a 'winter of discontent'... Have to wonder if Clarkson has panicked. Wouldn't be surprised if some of Hawk's multi premiership players who are playing for 'unders' watching this week unfold will call their managers to look for other opportunities and a chance to earn some decent coin before they retire or get 'pushed' by a ruthless coach. Our victory over the Hawks may well go down as a watershed game that started the demise of the once mighty Hawks
  18. Collingwood's arrogance has no bounds: "The Courier Mail is reporting the Magpies offered Levi Greenwood for Rockliff and also wanted the Lions to pay a major part of Rockliff's wage next season" WOW, that is such an insult to all concerned - offering a player they want to offload for an AA Captain! What are they on! I guess it is typical. Btw his contract is not $800k - that is what he (reportedly) wanted when he tried to renew his contract mid year. Lions balked big time, so it would be fair to say his contract is somewhat less than that. I'm not a fan of recruiting Rockcliff but if the Club were to go down that path and it appears there are no other takers, we should be able to get him for a reasonable and fair offer to the Lions. Rockcliff may need to take a bit of a haircut on his package as well, to fit our 'we do not pay overs' policy. Edit: Just saw this on Barrett's 'Trading Places'. I know he is not always reliable but when there is no bidding competition 'bargains' can be had. Brisbane Lions the Lions get offered any pick under 35 for Rocky ... ... they'll take it. As it stands, no club is prepared to do that. Says a fair bit about where he's at.
  19. Great exposure for the women's team 'waynewussell', well done! Bbo - you can be so exasperating, sometimes - that is so demeaning. On a different note the club has a new tab on our website AFLW which gives so much info about the player profiles, news etc and will soon have the fixture. Worth a look at it.
  20. Clarkson has always been a loose canon and it was Chris Fagan that held it all together. He has only been gone 10 days and it starts to unravel. Clarkson has upset a big batch of players suggesting they be the ones to go to GCS or like Mitchell and Lewis to move on. They have all accepted 'unders' to play there. It may well be everyman for himself in the future!
  21. Headline: Hawthorn in Damage Control! Hate to gloat but gee it is sweet to see that club with egg on its face!
  22. A destination club at last!! I would imagine a number of Hawk players would be feeling less secure knowing the 'encouragement' Clarko gave Mitchell to go to WCE and starting to look elsewhere!
  23. Hardly sounds a convincing rebuttal - usually that is code for 'we are open to discussions'. Hawks still need to get the O'Meara deal done and take 3 picks to the draft. Currently their picks in 2016 are: 23, 36, 54, 72, 90 and 108. So they give up a batch of 2017 picks and or players...some water to go under the bridge before they land the the Big O! If not Lewis maybe we can lure someone else away form Hawks?
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