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Those comments from Hamish are getting lost in the discussion: Hamish thinks if we win another flag Gus will consider moving on. If we don't win the flag his 'chip on the block' ie his ego, will want to make stay for another go. So we aren't likely to get an answer until our season is over. It also indicates he will do his all to win us another flag. This question isn't for you BBP but does anyone really doubt his commitment? Two flags then a chance to set himself up for life financially. I wouldn't begrudge him that. Before folks go too hard on Gus, remember Viney didn't renew his contract, after considering other offers until our season was over. No one doubts Jack's leadership or commitment, altho if I went back to the threads of the day the dialogue would be much like this thread. We are second on the ladder with finals around the corner, lets enjoy it.

They might be brothers but why is Hamish who is still involved with an AFL club, even commenting on the contract intentions of a key player at another club, especially when their other brother's club is trying to poach him.

A very ugly side of Rex Hunt: you-want-to-die-football-legend-rex-hunt-in-alleged-road-rage-incident

In what way might Freo's form have caused a change in the discussed contract terms: better? worse?

There may be quite some truth in that. Looking back at the start of this thread, in early Oct that he was ready to sign was reported by some well credentialed posters. Jackson spent the post GF time training in Perth due to covid travel restrictions in WA. Plenty of time for Freo to interfere with his contract negotiations with the dees. It seems they succeeded: in early December it was reported in this thread that contract talks went on hold.

It probably wasn't Jackson's doing. The trade period was barely a few weeks after the GF so not a good time to approach him nor would they want to pay the price of an in contract player, effectively lose 2021 pick 6 for Cerra plus whatever else we may have wanted. If @Ethan Tremblayinfo is correct, it would make sense for Freo to wait to plant the seed in the preseason. That way Freo get pick 6 and get Jackson. Methinks you are pointing the finger at the wrong party.

Therein is the issue - other teams bring their best game against us. We don't bring our best. We get away with it vs lesser teams as their best isn't good enough but the better teams beat us when we haven't brought our best which is those 5 losses. There have been other contributors to our losses but the pattern of not bringing our best is undeniable.

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https://www.sen.com.au/programs/sen-breakfast/ Scroll down the page and click on the Brayshaw item.

Right on the nail! In an sen interview this morning Angus Brayshaw noted two things we need to do to get back to our best: be more ruthless: it isn't arrogance but unconsciously, when we are 4-5 goals up, players are not ruthless enough in executing their role. need to re-commit to the team In other words: Attitude. Hopefully, they can quickly regroup and refocus.

Lots of rain in Perth this week. Freo don't like playing in the wet. Totally smashed by GCS and Coll in the wet. They have been practicing wet weather football. Not a week to go too tall.

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From training photos: No protection on his right hand! He got two coaches votes vs bulldogs playing one-handed! Watch out Freo!!

Very sorry to see him go. On the positive side, he leaves a nice kitty in our salary cap to entice other players and help keep a few we might otherwise lose. I'm glad a decision is made now, it gives the club more time and certainty to fill our list gaps/needs.

Votes: 8 Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (WB) 8 Marcus Bontempelli (WB) 5 Steven May (MELB) 4 Adam Treloar (WB) 2 Ryan Gardner (WB) 2 Clayton Oliver (MELB) 1 Ed Richards (WB) Amazing that Oliver, with one hand received votes! Brave as they come. Coach Split: 5/3 Ugle-Hagan, Bontempelli 4/1 May 4/0 Treloar 2/0 Gardner, Oliver 1/0 Richards Good to see May in the votes from both coaches. So much for the DL who thought he had a bad game. Just shows how differently coaches and fans see players. Leaderboard: 86 Clayton Oliver (MELB) 80 Touk Miller (GCFC) 78 Lachie Neale (BL) 75 Christian Petracca (MELB) 72 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE) 71 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 68 Connor Rozee (PORT) 67 Jeremy Cameron (GEEL) 56 Callum Mills (SYD) 54 Sam Walsh (CARL) 53 Hugh McCluggage (BL) 50 Charlie Curnow (CARL) 48 James Sicily (HAW) 48 Chad Warner (SYD) 46 Peter Wright (ESS) 45 Jack Crisp (COLL) 45 Jack Sinclair vSTK) 44 Taylor Walker (ADEL) Clarrie still on top despite a week out and playing injured this week.

I know but not sure it will be enough if the WA clubs come calling. They are premiership players and JVR shows a fair bit, so fully expect the WA clubs to make some enticing offers. Is Woewodin also from WA? We will be ripe for poaching, sadly.

We have a few: Rivers, Kozzie, JVR, McVee With Jackson there is a lot of good draft picks tied up in them albeit McVee is an NGA rookie. Lets hope they don't all want to go back any time soon.

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The way it is often presented on DL is that it is the major factor contributing to our losses. And the facts I listed are rarely given much discussion regarding those losses but mentioned in passing or generalities as the last few lines of your post do. I'll repeat, I believe in loading programs.

It isn't helpful to take one sentence: 'Our game relies heavily on defence' out of context of my post. I'm not sure what the above post has to do with what I wrote. I listed some key facts in our losses to very good sides and some of the best coaches in the league. Ignore them if you like. There are lots of reasons why players fatigue in games, loading is but one of them. I clearly said I believe in the loading programs. All sports have loading so it doesn''t take a crystal ball to predict it at the beginning of a season.

I don't think we have been worked out, per se. But every coach tries things. Some we are able to counter in game some we aren't and learn from them until next time they are used. With each tactic that looks successful the next coach will try it or a variant of it. In the bulldogs game they drew on the Hawks tactic of running with Langdon, Adelaide's attacking the corridor, Sydney's coralling our clearance players at stoppages, Geelong's avoiding Max etc An example is the bulldogs played Bailey Williams as a loose tag on Langdon. Williams is 7cm taller and a fair bit heavier than Langdon. They often used Williams as the exit kick from our fwd 50 and by using their bullet passes were able to move the ball quickly through the corridor, Then they made sure they kicked it to where Max wasn't.

Maybe: freo won because we had a heap of players covering covid absentees and the newbies made cohesiveness harder. May out early and Freo exploited all that in the second half. Sydney and Geelong won because they used different tactics that challenged us. As Goodwin has said clubs always try new things and we learn from them. bulldogs won because we were missing most of our fwd line and key interceptor, Lever. Coll won because we had only half our backline. They as the better teams also exploited our lack of a settled forward line. Our game relies heavily on defence. In our losses to top 8 sides only in the Geelong game did we have all of May, Lever, Petty, Salem. So maybe their and other key player abscences have been significant. I fully believe we and other clubs use a loading program. And that there are various loading programs/models available. Not all clubs will use the same program/model altho in principle they have loading and tapering phase(s). I just get frustrated with the ardent followers on here when they don't really acknowledge the above facts in our losses, in particular other club's coaching tactics. Which by the way doesn't mean 'we have been found out'. It simply means that on the day what they did worked better than what we did. They just say 'other factors' affect results. Then happily promote loading in our wins/losses without really knowing which loading program is being followed or when the loading and tapering phases are timed nor how that timing relates to our losses, except guesswork. So when we lose the first thing that comes up is 'loading'. And as for a 'loading end' party, please. And some loading proponents have started talking about how 'lucky' we were last year...

Our double up games are: Freo finished 11th Collingwood finished 17h Port finished 3rd Lions finished 4th Bulldogs finished 2nd. Its the luck of the draw that Eagles slid, North stagnated while Freo and Pies have climbed giving us a tough run home and the Cats an easy run. But really if we can't beat Freo, Coll, Carlton and Lions (again) we don't deserve a double chance and won't last long in the finals. It is totally in our control.

Ok, I get your interpretation of timing. However, they have managed to win every game while loading and we haven't. If we don't make top 4 from a 10-0 start it will be a poor second half of the season.

Some points: They talked about McCrae's experience at the Lions so it couldn't have been that opportunistic. MCrae talked about loading in the last 4 to 6 weeks ie during and since the bye, so we can't really attribute their losses early in the season when 5/5 to loading. To me it sounds a similar program to the Cats who have been loading during and from the bye. Since both clubs started loading neither has lost a game in months so their loading program hasn't had the serious affect on performance as ours ostensibly has ie they still win. If Coll win today both teams will have won 9 consecutive games while loading. We have won 4 of the last 9. According to the proponents of loading on DL our 3 straight losses were largely due to loading. But those games were before the bye which makes the loading program timing rather different to Geelong and Collingwood. Time will tell if they have peaked early.