Lucifers Hero

Didn't you say recently, you don't drink much🤔 The DA has certainly changed your ways!!

Bizarre! Barely an hour after their President held a press conf saying the coaching position will be discussed/decided on Sunday. Left hand/right hand at play. Did the President not know the coach is being sacked. Someone has burnt him or he said 'Sunday' to stop the scrutiny, his 'bluff' didn't work. He may have the shortest AFL President tenure in history. Edit: Does ch7 have it wrong. Other media still reporting it is Sunday. Someone should tell them the 'fish rots from the head'. Ditch the whole board is the only way to go. The place started to fall apart when Peter Jackson left. They need Peter Jackson back there badly but I hope he isn't tempted!!

For this year it is because they have played weaker teams. Haven't looked at prior years.

Good pun. If Hird came back and I was a player's parent I would get my kids out of that club asap. In fact, if I would get my kids out asap, anyway. Right now they are seeing their careers go down the gurgler. Development is poor, club divided and finals are light years away.

Round 23, 2021? So much 'redemption' and impetus on road to the Premiership, in that after the siren win.

Ess have to let him go and pay him out. They can't expect him to coach for them after this. If they don't the AFLCA needs to get him out of there, pronto!!. They should have made a public defence for him already and not left up to his colleagues. That the AFLCA said nothing to support coaches who were very badly treated while in contract: Shaw, Teague, Noble and now Rutten suggests there is something very wrong with that organisation.

The sensible thing to do. The Ess factions have been warring for a long time. It wouldn't end if Clarkson went there; it may have even become worse. Ess has kicked the biggest 'own goal' of all time. They are now so badly fractured who knows how long it will take to put the pieces back together. Would be happy if it takes 'forever'! If Clarkson turns them down, who would be silly enough to take the coaching job. Time for the popcorn!

Did he add what they and other teams do to Oliver... He has played that 'poor Neale' card a few times now this year. Probably trying to get the umps on side. He should show more public belief in his team rather than sook.

I know we all love TMc and want him back but lets remember he was dropped this year not long before his injury. Our game is now built to have one tall fwd Would we change it for two tall fwds this late in the season? We know that heading into the finals, team selection, cohesion etc relies on consistency and predictability. We have deliberately changed to a smaller fwd line and it is starting to click despite the shortcomings of ball movement and i50 delivery. Not sure TMc will make it back into the team nor we add another tall down there.

Nothing wrong with it at all. I agree Eddie is a pain. He and the squabbling is why I stopped watching FC several years ago. When a media thread starts up it often defaults into to a pile on, of one or more of the commentators and I could see that happening in this one.

@WalkingCivilWar It is true. The Contracts thread was rpfc's baby. I fostered it when he was busy for a while. Thanks goes to other DL's who have made suggestions to add or highlight info to make it the resource it is today. @rpfc happy to give your baby back into your care if you want.

Hang in their, Layzie. I and many other DL's really enjoy your work.

Thank you all 💕 Knowing that people like my contributions and posts is what brings me back to DL when I start to feel down about it. Thanks again.

I've already said I didn't see LDcV's post referring to Caro and Eddie. No it is not ok to bag either of them. It is not ok to bag anyone doing their job. No agenda. I just find these type of threads tedious. They and the number of repetitive threads on DL is causing me to post less and less these days. So maybe I do have an agenda: enjoy DL a bit more than I have lately. And before you tell me to not open a thread if I don't like what is posted, believe me I don't. After the first 10-20 posts of a new thread the writing is often on the wall and I don't open them again. To qualify that: if anyone quotes me I will come to a thread to give them the courtesy of reading their comments and if required respond. This thread is now in that category.

Sorry 'Dante'. I didn't see your post before posting mine. At least your comments are always mild mannered something of a rare commodity on DL at times.

I wonder how long it will take for this to become a Caroline Wilson pile on thread🙄

The jungle drums are very loudly saying he is a shoe in at GWS. Jungle drums from multiple jungles...

A problem for Ess is that if Clarkson brings in own people Ess will have some hefty staff contracts to pay out straight out of the soft cap . The AFL will probably bankroll some of the retrenchment costs were it to be North (like they did us) but all hell would break lose if the AFL were to help Ess, Clarkson's ego may lead him to the big club but I hope his political skills are well and truly honed. His bully-its-my-way style won't work at Ess. Not all staff or board members want him.

Thanks. Feel for North to have put their welcome mat out only to be ditched 'at the altar' so to speak. Any info on who might replace Yze?

Jaspa Fletcher is also a F/S who is expected to go in the earlier part of the draft. They don't have enough points for both but will get a good comp pick for Mc Stay, bring some of their 2023 draft currency into 2022 and they will get the deals done. As you say they may also trade out players for picks this year.

The Howe trade isn't so bad in that we got pick 29 back which became part of the pick trade package with GCS that enabled us to get Oliver. There were other aspects of the Coll and the GCS trades which I've left out to not overly complicate the end result of the Howe trade. I can come back and list them if anyone wants to know all the permutations. But the bottom line is we got Oliver.

I have always liked Spiderman for wearing a red and blue outfit!

I know he played in that game. His OTT celebration had an element of 'up yours' about it which to me was in poor taste. Howe was similar. In the video he claimed to be 'back at Melbourne now'. Sure he can support both clubs but my (rhetorical) question was who he would support in a final. That is when we would know if he is one of us.

While the Gabba looks like a 'fortress' they play weaker teams there, like Geelong at Kardinia Park. A look at their record there this year: Wins: Port, North, Coll, Eagles, Giants, Saints, Bulldogs, Suns, Carlton Losses: Ess Only two of those teams made finals last year. Of the two wins vs this year's top 8 teams the Coll win was early in the season when they weren't doing much. Like Geelong they tally up wins at their Home ground but fall short in finals when they come up against the best teams. Dees by 5 goals!!

Take him to the Richmond doctor!! Are Collingwood not playing Grundy to avoid aggravating an injury/'hide' his injury status. Caveat emptor!