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Daisy makes a really good point saying that while she gets criticism nearly every time she is on tv it was suprising for it to come from fellow past and present commentators, especially a colleague. Neither Hunt nor Brereton would have the guts to publicly put down a male colleague the way they have Daisy. Shameful.

$10.3m for 8 years is an average of $1.250m per year! About 10% of their sal cap. A lot of money to pay for potential! At least when Buddy, Grundy, Kelly, Petracca, Oliver etc got 7+ year contracts they were in their mid 20's, mature bodied AFL players and with runs on the board whereas Jackson is all potential albeit with a great start and some major medals. History of young players taking mega trade deals when only 20/21 hasn't served them well. HWSNBN renegotiated his contract to take a lower amount when the young guns need to be paid. Never came close to reaching his potential on field. Later injured, recovered then traded to Hawthorn for a very late pick. Retired early for personal reasons. Tom Boyd. Was ostracised by Bulldog team mates. Suffered from depression. Retired from AFL after just a few years with a premiership medal and almost a NSM but disillusioned. I truly hope Jackson has the maturity to deal with the attitude of Freo fans when he has a few poor games and of team mates if they have to take a lower contact to accommodate him.

Now Hardwick is complaining to the AFL that Nankervis is getting a poor deal from umpires. He is a behind play sniper. Gets away with a lot more than for what he is penalised. He, Scott and Beveridge are perpetual whingers. I'm so glad our club just gets on with it or if they do complain to the AFL (which they have every reason to about how Max, Clarry and Petracca are targetted) they don't announce it all over the media.

I guess it never occurred to Rex and Dermot that Daisy etc being on air is because tv networks want more women watching football games and football shows. From an audience perspective the network decisions would be gender based. As many have noted in this thread male commentators and show hosts/panelists are generally ordinary. Women just aren't interested in watching/listening to blokey, has-been players trying to be showmen and make the telecasts and programs about them using voice effects, silly words and dumb questions of each other to sound interesting but add little insight into the actual game. Not saying all the female commentators are really good. But in Daisy they picked the totally wrong target. Rex and Dermot are seeing Daisy on tv through the prism of their own biases ie men should be calling/commenting on games. Under what rock have they been living in the last 10 years?

Rex and Dermot could easily have made their case that, in their view, networks make gender based appointments. And that they prefer male commentators eg Carey. They did not need to drag Daisy or any other female commentator into it. Very, very poor to expose her to pillorying on social media for something that was not of her doing. They got their 'click bait' but a fine young woman is being disparaged. They should be ashamed.

Why would he suggest that Daisey let Carey get a word in when they aren't on at the same time. He either hasn't listened to the telecast or is saying stuff, which is critical of Daisy, just to make his comment sound valid when it is a fabrication.

I could name at least half a dozen bulldogs players that lift the arm like Ginnivan does. Apparently, Scott said that Selwood is merely 'evading the tackle' not 'leaning into the tackle'! What a joke of a comment! He says we have a league wide problem with players lifting their arms/dropping knees etc but not at his club! Both coaches have a lot invested as their players get a lot of cheap frees so no wonder they want to keep the status quo. Both clubs' players would be the worst at staging for various types of frees'

A curiosity question: why is the Freo game so significant?

Where Sydney finish is an outcome beyond our control unlike that of many other top 8 teams. On paper they have a very easy draw so prepare yourself for them being 4th. What might stop them being top 4 is themselves - they haven't won many games in a row, let alone 5 and that would need to change.

I reckon the first 3 will happen. Just not sure who will be 4th, most probably Sydney. Guess it doesn't matter who is 4th as we will most likely have to beat Geelong at some stage. Just prefer it to be in a PF or the GF.

Would love it if the top 4 were: Geelong Melbourne Brisbane Any team that can beat Geelong and our QF is vs Brisbane at the G.

Have to feel for Leigh Adams a bit. They just had a great win and have a few winnable games ahead of them. But North have started the process of getting a priority pick. What does the coach do: tank to get the pick or go all out and build some belief and confidence in the next 5 games.

In round one we didn't have Lever, Petty or Hibberd and Salem went off in the first quarter. That should more than offset the return of Bruce, even if Lever doesn't play this week. iirc TMc went back after Salem went off to shore up defence so we were down a tall up fwd. They still have no all ground defence and their backman don't hold up when challenged. And their pressure isn't so great. Undoubtedly Bevo will play games with his line-ups but at the end of the day they will lose.

Good analysis, SD. I wasn't imputing the likelihood of winning the GF from a particular position. This line at the bottom of your analysis is significant: Prior to last year the Premier hadn't finished Minor Premiers since 2013. And we were only the 7th team to do so in the 20 years since 2000. We went against recent history. Given the competition is so even this year the team finishing 4th might again go against history and win the GF especially if they win the first QF. Only guessing that it is the week rest which probably increases the chances of a QF winner taking out the GF. That aside I have posted in various threads that I am confident of a top 2 finish. I think it is unlikely that we will finish 4th. If not 2nd then it will be 3rd. However, if it is us at 4th I reckon we could beat anyone in the QF who finishes first and get the extra week rest. Or take it out from 4th if we lose the QF. Last year we showed that anything can happen, just as the Bulldogs did in 2016. Last year there were so many theories based on history that said we were unlikely to win it. But we did. History doesn't always repeat itself.

The top 7 are set and only the order to be decided. 8th spot will be fought out between Tigers and Bulldogs. Really a 50/50 call. Both capable of doing damage if they make it but unless they settle quickly whoever makes it will just be making up the numbers.

I wonder if @CHFis over his magnificent birthday celebrations and the hangover he was courting, not to mention enjoy our win.

Good pick up! It is probably why Kozzie was able to get free to kick goals. A bit like Sparrow, ANB, Spargo etc have said they do the defensive work so that Petracca and Oliver can do their thing. Bedford doing the defensive work allows Kozzie to do what he does best.

Just for fun, I looked at the run home for North and Eagles to see who might get the wooden spoon. Looks like it will be Eagles.😐 So no running Jackson into the preseason draft and expect North to pick him first up.

Not fussed if Lever is out for his shoulder injury. We beat the bulldogs in round 1 without him, without Petty, without Hbberd and Salem off in the first quarter. They still have no all ground defence and their backman just don't cut the mustard. And their pressure isn't so great. Undoubtedly Bevo will play games with his line-ups but at the end of the day they will lose.

10 Kysaiah Pickett (MELB) 8 Christian Petracca (MELB) 6 Connor Rozee (PORT) 4 Travis Boak (PORT) 1 Jack Viney (MELB) 1 Michael Hibberd (MELB) Split: 5/5 Pickett 4/4 Petracca 3/3 Rozee 2/2 Boak 1/0 Viney and Hibberd Pretty even by the coaches. Leader Board: The only contender that made up much ground in Olivers absence was Petracca. Can live with that! 84 Clayton Oliver MELB 75 Christian Petracca MELB 72 Andrew Brayshaw FRE 72 Touk Miller GCFC 70 Lachie Neale BL 68 Connor Rozee PORT 67 Jeremy Cameron GEEL 65 Patrick Cripps CARL 55 Callum Mills SYD 53 Hugh McCluggage BL 48 James Sicily HAW 48 Sam Walsh CARL 46 Charlie Curnow CARL 45 Peter Wright ESS 44 Taylor Walker ADEL 43 Bailey Smith WB 43 Chad Warner SYD 42 Jack Crisp COLL 42 Jack Sinclair STK

I have my sights firmly on a top 2 finish.

Not if Sydney knock them out of the top 4 which is quite possible.

Nah! They have an easy run. Let them win all 5 and be minor premiers thinking they are fantastic when in fact they may need a really good work out against some good teams before the finals. Then hope someone beats them in the first week of the finals. I'm happy for us to finish second or even third or fourth,

My query was on the poster's comment: It is a 2 week recovery at best. Re his training, it depends on when he tested positive. Given that Petty didn't train on Thursday morning, it would suggest he will be out of isolation on Thursday at the latest. When JV came out of covid isolation he did a special training run a few days before a game. They may do that with Petty and he plays.

It is in our power to shape the top 4 with games vs Freo, Pies, Blues and Lions. A strong position to be in. Given the weekend's results, Sydney will most likely make top 4 replacing either Freo or Lions.