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That too.

His hand will be strapped, he will have a few pain numbing injections and he won't feel a thing when he has his usual quota of handballs.😐

So many threads detour to Sam bashing and the pile on is getting tedious. Ask oneself a question: Is he doing the best he can? If the answer is 'yes' then folks should back off. His best may not be enough for some but it is all that can reasonably be asked.

The article itself says: “They’ve tried and failed on a couple already this year to get them on the hook.” so it would be players from other clubs.

“They’ve tried and failed on a couple already this year.” I wonder who has turned us down?

I'm of the same thinking, in that we may take the afl comp pick, less than he is worth, to get another deal we want done over the line or get it done early. We took less than we wanted for Watts but got the pick for Fritsch. Ditto we converted Hogan for May. Effectively Brown for Preuss etc. Above all we are pragmatic when it comes to trades rather try and extract max value on each trade.

I agree about Gus' trade value which is why I think we would not match. Yes, we would lose a comp pick for an inbound FA but are there any we would be looking at/want? De Goey aside? Mc Stay looks bound for Coll.

Buckley can be a real FIGJAM sometimes. As something totally irrelevant I notice his sons are named Ayce and Jett. Nice names in a way but phonetically they are words used to describe elite sports people...

If we win the premiership it will be pick 19 assuming the AFL deem the comp pick to be a first round pick. Whatever pick we get will drop 2-3 spots after a North pp and F/S pick(s). What pick do you think we get for Gus in a trade, freo aside?

Barrett doesn't have a clue. The easy way to stop a double by freo is to match their offer for Brayshaw and force a trade. As it is, they are struggling for currency for Jackson. Could only do Jackson and Brayshaw if they trade a very good player out, to us or to another team, to get a suitable draft pick for Gus. Not to mention their salary cap. Having said that does anyone think we will get better than the afl compensation pick (a late first round pick) for Gus in a trade, with any team? I'm inclined to think not so we will not match an RFA offer.

That would only work if Sparrow left, which isn't likely. Just not sure we need another inside mid. Can think of other list priorities.

Why would we go after an inside mid when Brayshaw can't get a game there. Bruhn will help our sal cap but we have a bunch of players competing for that spot and a few more yet to debut.

Thanks. I got the team wrong but the situation was he went there for more midfield time isn't played as a midfielder. All the more reason for Gus to be wary of going there.

Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper, Bobby Hill and Tanner Bruhn have all been floated as candidates to leave the Giants, but salary cap issues and a willingness from the club to “reset” amid a mini-rebuild should reportedly see all four leave. Richmond and Collingwood are among the Victorian clubs have shown interest in Taranto, while Adelaide, Richmond and Geelong have been linked to Hopper. Small forward Hill requested a trade to Essendon last year but is most likely to join the Magpies, while Bruhn is looking at a move back to Victoria, with the Cats thought to be keen on the Geelong Falcons product. gws-giants-exodus The price they pay for giving million dollar contracts to a handful of players most of whom are not pulling their weight. It is a mystery why GWS keep drafting midfielders when they don't have room for them in the side or cap space a few years later. They try to play them in other positions, the kids don't like it and go home. Rinse and repeat! Meanwhile they are deficient in key positions.

The most underwhelming reaction to being drafted, ever:

Ess midfielders are physically relatively small. Gus is the 'bigger body' type they need. Last year when Shiel was injured Parish moved into and 'starred' in the midfield, collected coaches and brownlow votes and was suddenly 'elite'. This year he and Merritt play hand-ball-in-circles, wrack up possessions and they lose. Since Parish has been out injured they go more direct to goal and won nearly every match. Some shaking up will happen in their midfield. But Gus should be careful what he wishes for and look to Jeremy Howe. Howe wanted to play fwd and quickly ended up in the backline where he was at Melbourne. Gus is not in our midfield because he is more flexible than the others we have. So he may well find he is promised midfield time but because those there are not versatile, or they would be played elsewhere now, he may find himself back on a wing or worse in the backline again. Caldwell went to Carlton for more midfield time. Quickly went to the HBF. AFL is littered with players made promises at courting clubs only to find 'circumstances change' and they end up playing in a different position to that promised. Message for Gus: Beware the Siren Song!

Perhaps. But that suggests Jackson might play one off against the other and I wouldn't have thought he was the type. One would hope that if he chooses a club he isn't going to nickle and dime them but go there for the right reasons.

The whole contract thing seems odd. If Jackson wants to go to Freo they don't need to offer such big $ or term. They could do 4 or 5 years on a more moderate package. He isn't likely to go anywhere else when it expires. Then renew another 3 or 4 years on big or bigger $ depending on how he goes.

Maybe, but there are other ways of doing those things without challenging umpires about free kicks to/denied their players.

Daisy makes a really good point saying that while she gets criticism nearly every time she is on tv it was suprising for it to come from fellow past and present commentators, especially a colleague. Neither Hunt nor Brereton would have the guts to publicly put down a male colleague the way they have Daisy. Shameful.

$10.3m for 8 years is an average of $1.250m per year! About 10% of their sal cap. A lot of money to pay for potential! At least when Buddy, Grundy, Kelly, Petracca, Oliver etc got 7+ year contracts they were in their mid 20's, mature bodied AFL players and with runs on the board whereas Jackson is all potential albeit with a great start and some major medals. History of young players taking mega trade deals when only 20/21 hasn't served them well. HWSNBN renegotiated his contract to take a lower amount when the young guns need to be paid. Never came close to reaching his potential on field. Later injured, recovered then traded to Hawthorn for a very late pick. Retired early for personal reasons. Tom Boyd. Was ostracised by Bulldog team mates. Suffered from depression. Retired from AFL after just a few years with a premiership medal and almost a NSM but disillusioned. I truly hope Jackson has the maturity to deal with the attitude of Freo fans when he has a few poor games and of team mates if they have to take a lower contact to accommodate him.

Now Hardwick is complaining to the AFL that Nankervis is getting a poor deal from umpires. He is a behind play sniper. Gets away with a lot more than for what he is penalised. He, Scott and Beveridge are perpetual whingers. I'm so glad our club just gets on with it or if they do complain to the AFL (which they have every reason to about how Max, Clarry and Petracca are targetted) they don't announce it all over the media.

I guess it never occurred to Rex and Dermot that Daisy etc being on air is because tv networks want more women watching football games and football shows. From an audience perspective the network decisions would be gender based. As many have noted in this thread male commentators and show hosts/panelists are generally ordinary. Women just aren't interested in watching/listening to blokey, has-been players trying to be showmen and make the telecasts and programs about them using voice effects, silly words and dumb questions of each other to sound interesting but add little insight into the actual game. Not saying all the female commentators are really good. But in Daisy they picked the totally wrong target. Rex and Dermot are seeing Daisy on tv through the prism of their own biases ie men should be calling/commenting on games. Under what rock have they been living in the last 10 years?

Rex and Dermot could easily have made their case that, in their view, networks make gender based appointments. And that they prefer male commentators eg Carey. They did not need to drag Daisy or any other female commentator into it. Very, very poor to expose her to pillorying on social media for something that was not of her doing. They got their 'click bait' but a fine young woman is being disparaged. They should be ashamed.

Why would he suggest that Daisey let Carey get a word in when they aren't on at the same time. He either hasn't listened to the telecast or is saying stuff, which is critical of Daisy, just to make his comment sound valid when it is a fabrication.