rjay

Fair chance we could finish 13/14...although they say it's an even draft this year. The myths of the draft.. This is a super draft He is a generational talent This is an even/deep draft

I've believed for most of this season that we need to reset the list. The talk of making finals this year, it's not happening. Any chance went out the window with Trac's injury & probably earlier with Gus' s retirement. Reset with a decent draft hand, good trade period & go again in 2025.

Not sure about Carlton but the Swans have been loading and most probably in a loading phase now. Hannebery talked about it earlier today on SEN. For those that have doubted the efficacy of loading and the effect it has in season then maybe worth listen. For those with a closed mind, then don't bother.

...Ryan is more believable than most.

I do think it's funny the excuses (reasonable) being made for Carlton...injury and 5 day break. If it was us a lot on here would be saying it was Goodwin & dismissing the injury and 5 day break excuse as weak.

Come on 'DD'...you've watched the Casey games. There is no way that he is competitive enough in the ruck to play the position at AFL level. If you are going to attack anything it should be the list management decisions not selection.

The question is, who do we bring in that will do better? I don't think we have a better option than Petty & JVR until Max gets back.

Neither is Fullarton..

You never know why decisions are made unless you're in the room...we are all guessing and as I've said before I would have selected Grundy like most of us but who knows the extenuating circumstances.

If you've seen Fullarton at Casey then you would know that wasn't going to happen. Better to at least have Petty marking ability around the ground...

OK, so who was this specialist ruckman we should have selected 'SWYL'???

I think this is one of the issues with Will... ...and against good VFL ruckmen he has struggled to provide a consistent contest. You can blame selection as much as you like, but when the cupboards bare...

It's the truth...we don't have anyone apart from Max who can compete in ruck contests at that level. People want him to talk straight then he does and others complain. I know it's a no win situation.

If we look at our best 5 players coming into this season we could probably say Max, Trac, Clary, Gus and May. 3 of those are out, 1 at half power and the other going ok. We get the results we should pretty much expect. We don't have the star power on the ground to win against top teams. No coach is going to fix that, genius or not.

It's really not 'norm'...these are list management decisions. Goody has some input but the decision is not his alone.

Joining the army...

Don't bet on it...a mate of mine (mad Swan's supporter), hates him with a passion.

Hard to see Clayton going anywhere while Goody is coaching the club...

Probably would have moved him to FF...

You get to see a bit of why the players love him...and why he is so important to this team.

Makes a mockery of the idea of an independent tribunal...

The predictable call of every frustrated supporter of an AFL team. Most wouldn't know plan B if it bit them.

6 in a GF, in top line of goal kickers in AFL over the last number of years. Hardly overrated. Having a quite patch, yes. Overrated, no. Probably has been underrated for what he has achieved.

Particularly with Brayshaw gone...

A premiership is hardly an epic fail...