rjay

I think the Grundy trade in was a big mistake...is there any one person who should be held accountable or is it a group of people? We're only guessing. As for other decisions, we just don't know the logistics. Salary cap space, opportunity, who was available to us. I think the Grundy fiasco has made it harder to attract another ruckman so that effects who is available to us. We've certainly been doing a lot of work behind the scenes to improve our draft hand over the last few years but our ladder position amongst other things hasn't given us a good hand & opposition clubs generally have not wanted to trade. I don't know enough to put all the plusses & minuses on the board & come up with an answer to the blame game.

When you have such an entrenched position on this as you have in this instance, then it's pretty clear why you've yet to see a convincing argument to the contrary.

Have a great gig 'hardtack'...enjoy!

You don't think having Max, the best ruckman of the last 20 years if not of all time playing in his best position would be a better option? Max is not and never has been a forward, that's in part why the Grundy experiment didn't work.

Let me ask you this...how many All Australian jumpers has Stringer got? how many coaches awards? how many club B&F's? none to my recollection. I wouldn't mention Stringer in the same breath.

Andrews something to answer for here?

Umpires to involved again..

Nah...

Appalling umpiring...

Of course the pressure will be on next year...along with a host of others including Voss, Bevo, McRae if they fail again, Longmuir, Nicks, Clarko...Dimmer if they tread water Kenny kicks it all off this weekend and Fagan is on shaky ground if Brisbane get bundled out. It's probably easier to list who is not under the pump...Scott (Chris), Longmire, Kingsley..

Looks like Goody is still the HS whipping boy. They have really treated him poorly and it's amazing that he still has anything to do with Robbo and his mob.

I was watching Gulden a few weeks back when he had to play a bit more of an inside mid role in a pressure game. For someone who is one of the great kicks in the game currently, he continually turned the ball over. I think this is where the inside role is often not properly understood by many.

Just proved you don't comprehend the response by 'Jaded'...

If they were the same age it might be an interesting question but not now..

Purcell has been a big loss. ...but apart from that it might be time for Mick to look at a few other moves. I think Goldie is much better in defence and should go back to HB. Campbell showed a bit as a KPF and would be good to see her settle there for a bit. I would like to see Gillard tried in the ruck...I think she's wasted down back at the moment. A bit more controversial but at its highest level I think the game has passed Lil by and probably Paxy as well. Not sure where to sit Banno. Can't just keep plugging holes with Hore.

Over umpired so far tonight...

I hope she doesn't take over as ' @DeeSpencer's whipping girl...

Agree...she looked good in patches last year. ...be good to see her get a clear run at it.

Some good points here... Freo, I wonder if they're calling for one in Perth? I'm happy for them all to fail and you could add a few more to the list. ...but I don't think a review would hurt us and is in our best interests.

Interesting point.. Also, it's interesting that he's going to 7 who have had cultural issues play out in the media of recent. So maybe culture is not so important.

I think it would be part of a comprehensive review...

Keep up the good fight mate...my thoughts are with you.

You get a great player and great trade value if they want to go home.

I love it 'Macca', but I'm listening to my old vinyl & haven't bought any new stuff. There are some pretty expensive new & reissued vinyl releases out there. Not sure it's as good as the old but it's fun to put a record on & listen to a side then turn it over & listen to the other...

Just had this on the turntable 'Macca'...great album.