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Jordy Mac and Judy Garland are great clubmen but not hitting any heights. Where does Riv fit in? I dont know. Leaving Jones out was disgraceful Sloonie.My apologies

Sorry -forgot him in a moment of insanity.

I left Judy off because I doubt he would be a walk up start at another club. l like Judy alot but he leaves me weeping at times.

Of our current list, this is a far easier question to answer. I can only think of 12 guys The dirty dozen who have the right stuff to take us forward . Mitch Clark Frawley J Howe Col Sylvia Trengove Grimes Watts Sylvia (edit-Jones for the 2nd Sylvia) Tom Mc Stef Martin Jurrah Blease The two Jordies should be on this list but they are not yet worthy. Who are the others that show they have the ability to play consistent winning football? I'm hoping I've forgotten a couple of gems. I dont include guys like Cook ,Fitzy ,Spencer ,Jetta in this list because they need more of a go . Nicho and Bail I would keep only because they have potential. Are there any other definate keepers?

Cannot Agree .Mitch Clark ,Jack Watts ,Jack trengove ,Jack Grimes ,Frawley ,J Howe ,Martin ,Sylvia ,Jones ,Jurrah ,Tom McDonald and Blease are the only guys who can play the game . 12 guys who actually can play well consistently.

I'm not going to shoot you down over this because I dont really know the ins and outs of LTI list ,drafting etc .Is he ever going to give something back?

If you were Neeld ,would you not get out the chainsaw and do some "pruning".

I'm over the excuses for all of our players .They aren't running out-they are finished.It's not enough to just win taps anymore-Martin played better than Russian has played all year yesterday.Russian is losing taps and doing nothing around the ground .

Skills , ability or character-I'll take JT over TS anytime.

Hows the "Culture" up in Outer Western Sydney Tom ? Parasites like you belong in that test tube team . So happy you found your place in life you little bogan. I think of all the starving children in the world when I imagine the waste of money poured into this team for what will be an enormous fail.

We have given him a go when he probably didn't deserve it .I was a fan but now I think he may just be better off playing cricket . Sorry to lack compassion just after his ankle injury but FFS. I really cannot cope with list letdowns like him anymore. Sorry JB-Sorry to fans of JB but I'm done with guys that get chance after chance and then get injured or get injured and then get chance after chance . Cut em free-lets get some kids who want this for a career .

That is why he shall remain nameless-he is a very old mate. But rest assured there will be a cull . Those here that have called for a cull will not be disappointed.

Yes it will-expect 10-12 changes .Get on Casey to win the flag in 2013-they will have a lot of former AFL players in their mid 20s

Dont worry too much . I am told by a source who shall remain nameless (on the payroll of the MFC) that the drafting/delisting this year will be "ruthless and brutal". I ran through some names with him and all the guys who you would expect to be going are going .

Hoping we can say the same for you.

I hope we just put in a false bid to drive the price of Cloke up . I dont think he is worth 1 mill a year-he will get in Mitch's way .

He's just a natural footballer. Hes worth a four or five year deal. His kicking isn't that bad . He's a part of the future for sure.

I like these changes Stinga-I bet the club does also .

They were all Quality though!!!

I think Brad deserves to go out in the firsts-and I think he will . There is no one at the club who has been here longer than him-we should show him some love and ease him out the door -not push like we did Jmac .

Need to wait and see-he is tiny and may not be ready for his first AFL match ,if at all ,until he is 22. Does Allen Jakovich have a kid? We missed out with Zantuck-who I thought was gonna be a champ. C'mon oX ,Gary, Tingay ,Breed and feed . The zombies of the MFC need more brains to eat!!!!

What about all the intelligentsia ,inciteful comment ,analysis ? Crusty old farts and schoolkids on holidays aside-you have to admit that the writing here is at least as well researched and written as The Herald Sun-by which I mean ,not at all .

Good job .

Geez Robbo-what about all those people who really wanted to sack him because of his "attitude" and becuase he has been injured .

Dont they all need to be a few minutes in front of Cadel to have any chance? He is a killer on the time trial and wipes them all there as long as he is within 6 minutes or so. Cadel looks like he is doing it easily . As long as he stays up -he'll win .