Demon Dynasty

RP are we spreading that well vs the League if basing this on UPs? I'm not so sure. Did some quick numbers. Average UPs per game for the season to Rnd 11, 2015 are *League 225 MFC 200 That's a gap of 11% on the rest of the league Looking at where we were at around the same time last season.... Average UPs per game for the season to Rnd 12, 2014 were *League 213 MFC 223 We were up 4.6% on the rest of the league at that point. The only team below us to this point of the year is Gold Coast on 187 Other teams just above us include the Doggies on 201, the Blues on 204, Brisbane on 209 and the Pies on 215 In addition i've quickly looked at the inside 50 stat averages versus approx same time last year as above. Not great on either count i50s 2015 *League 51 MFC 42 Down 19% vs the League ave. i50s 2014 *League 48 MFC 42 Down 12% *exclusive of MFC data Stats: Courtesy of Footywire

Just a quick look at some of the key stats from Sunday's game against the Saints that are "Champion Data" exclusive... Note: there were areas on the day that we won such as contested/uncontested but I've left them out seeing as they're readily available on a number of football sites. Areas we came out on top > Hit outs to Adv 21/10 Areas we were behind > Metres gained - 386 > Intercepts -9 > Intercept marks -10 > % time in forward half 59/41 > Tackles i50 18/8 > Pressure Acts 324/222 Our top 5 metres gained exponents were... 1. Mr Vince 506 2. The Jones boy 503 3. Dunny 376 4. The Toump 353 5. Crossy 344 Bottom 5 were.... 1. Gawn -23 2. Pedo 7 3. Michie 41 4. Garlett 58 5. ANB 97

I did pit forward the idea of Hells Bells a few years back with the Demonettes dragging out the Bell (hey us old fellas need something to get us going!) followed by a Demon mascot who hammers the bell with his pitchfork as the song starts. Seems someone may have liked the bell bit. For me I actually dont like it as all they do is keep replaying the start of Hells Bells (ie, the bells) until the team runs out. Too orchestrated and trying to be too "on cue". Just let the song play out (for the most part) a few minutes before the boys hit the gates. Who cares if the bells arent ringing at that point. The rest of the song rocks and fans will love it. Alternatively your idea is great Fish... play the club song then hit em with Hells Bells after. Hec they could even put some lightning & thunder on the boundary screens to go with it.

We might not be at the bottom but we were still beaten by a lowly team that finished on the bottom last year. You have also taken me out of context by excluding my first paragraph which refers to "team" progress and where I was specifically responding to someone's claim that we were better than Brisbane. If we lost to one of last year's finalists, or even better, one of last year's Grand Finalists I can understand people using that to say "hey look we did things in that game that were big progress on past year vs a rated opponent". You can throw in Reiwoldt or a marginally better list as an excuse as to why we lost but regardless we still lost. If we had won against a finalist from last year then i have no doubts many on here would be running around saying "hey we beat a rated opponent". Same goes the other way. We lost to a lowly opponent who might be on the improve list wise, but isn't rated and were officially the worst team in the AFL last season. If we beat them on the G in a few weeks time I will happily agree with you and some others here and say we are progressing against them "as a team" on the G! As for shityhad? Well that's another massive hurdle altogether. ..and has now become a mountain.

They MAY have a deeper reserve overall, "list wise" , but this wasn't the case with the team fielded yesterday. Average games experience was only about 5.6 higher than us. Not significant, plus they had 2 extra players at sub 50 games. They had only 1 more experienced player than us at 100 plus games and we had 3 more players than them in the 50 to 100 game category. The Saints were carrying more rookies than us on the day.

Jones and at least one other forward should have been rolling a plus 2 in the middle ie, 1 running off the square to the side Jones wasn't... Plus an extra sitting in the hole between FF/CHF and another in the goal square (at least 3 from our forward half.... Not a standard plus one as if there were 5 minutes plus left!). If the leader and other players cant see the security Konga being wheeled out with 5 minutes left (as a bare minimum SIGN that the game is close to finishing) then they should all visit Dr. Frankenstein who I'm sure will be more than happy to provide them with a frontal lobotomy for a reasonable fee.

We are only better than Brisbane if we beat them in a few weeks time Chris. Until then we are worse than the Saints (until we meet them at the G) and possibly better than the Lions. Maybe better than the Blues. But again we won't know until we play them as well. Until we start winning games we should be winning we are effectively going nowhere as a club, no matter how warm and fuzzy some of us supporters might feel about signs of "progress". Progress is just a nice word that easily rolls off the tongue until you start winning games against clubs ranked within reach of where you are at or lower.

Mate they fear failure and go into their shells even when we are losing anyway like through much of the last quarter. There was nothing to lose so play with daring abandon when you get the ball not like you're protecting a 2 or 3 goal lead with a few minutes to go! Too many players in this team have serious mental issues with winning and shyte thier panties. They then start playing sideays/backwards footy with virtually no one willing to take the game or their opponents on, take risks/responsibility and go out an win the fricken thing through effort and attacking/daring play a la Geelong. Club needs to employ a hypnotist pronto our it wont survive this lot.

Agree with everything said here except that Gawn didnt tap or palm the ball into open space. For all his height the boy cant leap over a cane toad. He jumped way too early and was on the way down when his opponent hit the contest (leaping higher than 2 cane toads...ie, one higher than Gawn) and managed to spike it into open territory and to the open side of Stevens. But the point still remains, why did the forwards (excluding Jeffy who should have been running in from the square as the ball was bounced...might have even got a tackle or pressure act in on Stevens from behind!) not go back and flood as soon as Howe split the middle? Dumbest club of all time. Should be renamed the Dumbell Demons

Pretty much sums up our mid field and depth woes for mine. We are also lacking a truly gritty mid fielder who can play big time but also has solid leadership skills to drag the boys along with him a la a Hodge/Selwood type. I realise they don't grow on trees but we seriously need something extra in that mid field. Someone that oozes leadership, footy smarts and courage.

YUP...and Jones is one of the biggest culprits in this regard. What the hell are we going nutz about regular time goals for? Unless its a first gamer kicking his first it should be recognition of a good job only or a recognition of the player who delivered. Get around em but dont celebrate till after the siren. Knuckleheads

Don't think Roos has had much choice Dee having already played 35 players approx half way through the season. I think he is just rotating through many players that are unlikely to be big on his favorites list just to be 100% sure that he is making the right decision in trading/delisting them ie., giving everyone a fair go before the next big clean out as well as looking to fill in the jigsaw with the appropriate player type required to fill the massive gaps. He would also not want to overlook someone who may well be a 200 plus gamer at another club! I just hope in the next lot of draft selections he picks a VERY serious leader as well as a potential star a la Hodge/Selwood. I think the criteria of the next group to come through needs to be as much about character/leadership qualities as it is about talent/grunt if we are to ever get off the bottom.

I like your optimism SS but when it comes to the MFC's on field fortunes i'm more used to, well ......

Bottom 5 for me (excluding Pedo who was injured but probably comes in just ahead of Gawn in the worst 5) were.... Gawn Riley ANB Garlett & Michie I'm not saying we drop all 5 but just saying these were the worst of the worst IMO (on top of Pedo). i'll gladly leave it to Roos and the FD worry about changing the deck chairs with Casey options and next weeks match ups in mind. They get paid enough $, although i doubt they'll be able to save the Titanic

Leadership leadership leadership.....wherefore art thou?? 6. the Toump 5. Mr. Vince 4. T-Mac 3. Grubby (Grimes) 2. Watts 1. Cross N Jones was up there but cancelled out any good work with lack of leadership when most needed. Needs to stop celebrating goals in regular time and get on with leading and getting the job done. Celebrate only WHEN/IF we win...preferably after the siren!! Viney also with a number of brain fades and failing to man up Stevens in the dying seconds.

With 30 to 40 seconds left and just as the ball was sailing through from Howe..... Jones, Crossy, Garlett, H and others should have been screaming for everyone up forward to get back and leave only Jeffy and the sweeper goal side on either side of the bounce. Whatever the structure it should have been a set play for the team and AUTOMATIC structure, albeit a frantic one. No excuses, either the players stuffed what should have been a set play....OR Roos hasn't instilled or drilled this into them. Only the players/coach will know which one it is but regardless this is school footy stuff that no other team except us could have stuffed. Can only see 2 more plausible, but unlikely wins for the year (as they are SO mentally frail as a group) and funnily enough that's against the Saints at the G in 5 rounds time and the Blues a few weeks after that. I'm not even going to bother watching the rest. If we can't get over the line versus a saints line up with about the same inexperience and even more sub 50 match players than us, then we will have major problems against pretty much everyone else. Looks like we will be fighting it out with the Blues and possibly Brisbane for yet another spoon.

Get numbers behind the ball YOU FukTARDS!!!

FMD HOWE!

1.5 minutes left !

Viney you donk

C'mon guys TOO stagnant! Lead and pick...lead and pick! Then pull the trigger around mid field!

14 to 3 inside 50s.. FFS

Now it's time for the DUNNY TORP!!!

Not gonna win playing an old fashioned flood guys!

Short passes up the field...then pull the trigger! WTF Tyson