Jaded No More

Bold prediction of the week #2: Dunn to dominate with 30 possessions, 3 goals and 7 tackles.

Sandy's leadership group > Melbourne's leadership group ??? The Dunn is about to explode at AFL level... Watch this space.

I don't know if these figures are true or not, but as part of the Red and Blue Army initiative, the club is trying to reach 250,000 Melbourne fans... 250,000?? If every MCC member who barracks for Melbourne bought the $40 membership (or however much it is), we'd easily reach our target of 30,000.

Try the club website (if it will load ), otherwise ticketmaster. I would have made the effort to drive down, but unfortunately I have to attend a wedding in the morning... I'm leaving as soon as the ceremony is over though so I can watch us get slaughtered. Damn inconsiderate brides and their stupid wedding planning skills... take a look at the fixture honey <_< :D

We could have lost by a million points, but this wouldn't be an issue if the majority of our supporters weren't a pathetically limp bunch. If Collingwood lost to Hawthorn instead, would anyone be worried about crowd numbers for the following week? No, because as feral as their supporters are, at least they stick by their club. No doubt half of the pretenders who claim to be Melbourne fans have already jumped off the bandwagon and will not be seen again until we win 5 in a row (or play Collingwood on Queens Birthday ). I've said it before and I'll say it again, pathetic, conditional supporters are our biggest problem. (This is not an attack on anyone who posts on Demonland by the way. I think we all know at least one Melbourne supporter who should be ashamed of their so called level of support for this great club).

Bailey inherited a list hand-picked by Daniher and CAC over a 10 year period. Sheedy would have inherited the same crap.

A- Robbo was robbed because the stupid selectors decided to put a ruckman in the forward pocket B- He has more than fulfilled his requirements as a key player and leader. Not much more you can ask from a small forward than kicking 40+ goals a season C- How many B&F's has Bruce won?

Indeed. What about Robbo who just missed out on All Australian and has topped our goal-kicking table for a number of season now? Gees, if Cameron Bruce is the best we've got we really are struggling.

I wasn't comparing the talents of Brown to Garland's and you know that. But what makes you such an expert on talent? If Dean Bailey believes he has what it takes to be a good player, and he does, than I will take his opinion anyday of the week over some fan in the outer who feels the need to get stuck into a kid who is still raw and finding his feet. To say that game time won't make a difference is crazy. With experience comes confidence, a better understanding of the game, etc etc.. So far I haven't seen anything from Garland that suggests he is hopeless beyond help. His disposal is not great at the moment, but that can be worked on.

You have got to be kidding me! How the hell can you make a judgement on a player who has played 3 games? What did he do on Sunday that was worse than 21 of his teammates? He certainly showed more than Newton who ducked and weaved his way through physical contests in the most pathetic fashion. IMO Garland has good pace and agility and we need to give him more than 3 games before we crucify him. I've seen about 50 crap games in a row from some of our senior players and for some reason they are still getting a game. Garland is the least of our worries and should be persisted with for a couple more seasons at least. And please show me a KPP who dominated in this 3rd AFL match... Even Jonathan Brown struggled for impact in his first few matches, and he is probably the best player in the competition.

Garland has played 3 friggin games. Sure he hasn't won a Brownlow yet, which is a complete disgrace, but he still has 2-3 more games left in the tank For the love of god, players with 150 extra games under their belt were worse than him on Sunday, but no, lets pick on the new kid!

We need to wait and see what happens to Miller when Jared 'I'm the only decent defender you have' Rivers finally makes a return to senior footy. Miller might then be used as a third tall, which I think he is capable of doing. Dunn, Bate, even Sylvia are all better CHF candidates because as well as presenting they can also kick long and with purpose. Not to mention they have superior marking abilities, and can push into the midfield if needed. If Miller doesn't make it as a third defensive tall, he won't have a place in our team IMO. He needs to stick it out, and no doubt when our midfield actually bothers to put pressure on the ball carrier, and Rivers makes his triumphant return, things will look a whole lot easier for everyone in the back half.

We also need a tagger/ defensive midfielder in there. We have McLean, Jones and Moloney, who are all, by nature, attacking players who focus on chasing after the pill. The presence of say a Bartram could make a huge difference. Not only can he block and shepherd our own midfielders, he can also nullify the influence of the opposition's most important midfielder. Alternatively, it might be time to get Junior to start tagging and negating again. Just as a side note, I thought our work at the bounce was actually not as pathetic as it has been over the last 12 months. To draw even in the clearances was a good start. Pity that we can't get the ball out of the pack though. This is where pace comes into the equation. Sadly we don't have anyone quick enough to burst through. Moloney, McLean and Jones try, but they are not quick nor strong enough to get away from 2-3 players at a time... if only Buckley could actually kick!

I found it quite sad to hear last night that so many past greats of the club have been burnt and don't want to return. We need to present a united front, and if Gary can help reunite the various factions within the club that would be fantastic. On an unrelated note, Hutchy is a pathetic sensationalist that needs a good kick to the head.

For the love of all that is red and blue, why don't you make the situation a bit more dramatic The only way this loss would change anything is if more supporters followed your lead and went on a massive wrist-slashing rampage. It was a bad loss, but it was one game. The whole 'woe is me' attitude is not going to make anything better.

Rutten benefits from having defensive ability. Having never seen Meesen play before, I'm not sure if the same could be said about him. Full back is not some position you fill with whatever big player you can find. You need to train to be a defender, and as far as I know Meesen has been training with the ruckmen not the backline.

Ugh, Melbourne 'supporters' make me sick! Support the club or just go away. Honestly, nobody forces you to barrack for Melbourne, so don't let the door hit you on the way out. :angry: :angry: :angry:

Was very disappointed that Frawley didn't make the team. I'd rather him than Yze, given he can play down back and can also fill a hole on the wing/ half-back flank. Definitely needs game time to show us what he can do.

I agree. Our defence held on for dear life. They were always next to their opponent, and they tried to zone off and help each other, but when the ball is coming in at the speed of light and with such precision, there is nothing a defender can do. Also, Franklin is not exactly Kent Kingsley II. On a bad day he'll turn you inside out, on a good day he'll make you look like a D-grade amature defender. Carroll's disposal, when he actually had the ball, was not too bad. At least he kicked with some purpose.

Lack of fitness due to recent injury. Bailey refused to play anyone who wasn't 100% fit, which is why injuries and lack of fitness is NOT an excuse when it comes to the performance yesterday. Some players are getting away with too much because "oh no, they were struggling with injury". Complete crap. The only player who can get away with that excuse is Petterd, who will probably need a few weeks to catch up to the speed of the game, following his lung injury.

Having pace allows you to pressure your opponent, man-up better, move the ball with more purpose, not get caught flat-footed. Of course getting clean first possessions is very important, but it does not eliminate the need for pace. That we have two quick players in our team, one who cannot dispose, the other who is hot and cold every week, is a real worry.

He remained calm but to me it seems that he's ready to quite seriously hurt a lot of players. He was fairly short-tempered with the media, and I think the fools who play for this club have no idea what's coming their way tomorrow (mentioned Tuesday's training). It's all fun and games until the bald man brings his shotgun to training

I'm pretty sure we broke even in the clearances yesterday.

Did we make a mistake with Davey, beefing him up over summer so he can play in the midfield, thereby reducing his speed? I'm worried that we're too focused on getting him into the centre of the ground, even at the expense of his greatest asset, his speed. He looked almost overweight yesterday, and yet when he was chasing down a player he could barely lay a tackle. Was probably our biggest non-performer yesterday. If ever he is struggling, the simplest thing we can do is chuck him at the feet of the FF. That is his natural position and he will always make something happen down there. I'm not convinced that he'll ever quite make it as a midfielder, and I would hate for him to end up like Brad Green (could have been a great forward, but is now just an average midfielder). Our lack of speed all around the ground is depressing. We look like a team assembled in a senior centre.