Agree Benny, but who are our 26-30 year old leaders that will help drive those young guns in the way the mature leaders of Syd, Haw and Geel have? That's a hole in our list that needs some serious thought. Viney seems to be growing into that role, but he's still so young. I don't consider NJones a great leader, but he's the best we have. A mature leader or two who can play a bit would be very useful next year.