Moonshadow

is this a footy board or a politics whingefest? Thought it was about WCE and Collingwood. Silly me!

Great news. The signings are coming thick and fast. Got to get Jack Viney's signature next!

Steven May

Ha! Here I am:

I've seen PJ at the footy decked out in red and blue with his missus after he finished with us. He's one of us

Happy to disagree. Don't get me wrong, certainly don't want him traded, but I'd say Trac and May are our only untradable players at the mo Occasionally I try to take these off

I disagree, but it would be fair to say that Kelly fits our needs for a highly skilled outside mid more than Clarry does atm Besides, my point was that IMO Oliver is not untradable

Not saying I want this, but would you trade Clarry for GWS Kelly? I ask this because every player has a price, for the individual and the club

So he hasn't signed yet for 4 or 5 years.... Interesting Fingers crossed ?

Confirmation bias. He played a couple of good games this year too, from limited opportunities. I won't stress if he is traded, but I believe at the right club he will develop into a handy backman. A change for Oscar will be as good as a holiday. Good luck to him.

5 x $700K?!!! 1. That's crazy money 2. His younger bro is high draft pick f/s for Pies. They will desperately want to play together. If anything, Josh will take less money for this

Here 'tis

Yes, but will he listen and take advice from from those around him?

How many do Port, WCE or St K have?

in the open market Tracc close to $1mill and Clarry about $850-900k. Maybe about 10% less at the Dees, as its easier to stay if happy than leave. Obviously I have no idea what their contracts actually are, I'm speculating like everyone here. But I highly, highly doubt Viney would sign for $300k, which is what I originally disputed

Picket, when I read your posts in the voice of Donald Trump they make so much more sense!

That's your opinion, but I doubt it's the opinion of the wider afl industry. The answer to your question is emphatically 'yes'.

So... bag out some who have had better games but reserve judgement on others who have had zero 'good' games?? Thank [censored] you are not our list manager picket!

Hawks have offered him the batmobile

I know I'll get howled down for this, but with the right coaching and development I think OMac will become a handy backman. Only 24yo, would do much better at Rich or WCE. Rich turned Grimes into an AA. Not comparing the two, just illustrating that development is king

SEN employing the scattering approach to trade scenarios hoping something eventually is correct. Sounds familiar ?

I googled "average afl player wage 2020". There will be plenty below that, but an ex capt, b&f winner in the prime of his career would get about double that IMO. You and I might hope for less, but that's the reality. Unless we let him go as a FA and pay a 1st rounder $105k. I googled that too!

Disagree, to some extent, A F. The average player wage is about $365k. He'd be valued in the industry at much more than that. I'm only guessing, but maybe $650k??? Not sure If we want to keep him, pay him what he's worth. Of course we'll try and low ball him, but the reality will be somewhere near what he's worth on the open market A lot of posters compare AFL player wages with the average punter's wage. Or compare the job circumstances of the AFL to us mere mortals. It's not apples with apples. There's so much money in the footy industry at that level. It's not realistic to compare Jack's contract with yours or mine. It's a completely different workplace, just about polar opposite (I stand corrected A F, if you are in fact an AFL footballer!)

Who's clutching at straws???!!

Yes, but Geelong and Hawthorn have consistently had something else to compensate for contracts under the market rate: premierships.