Grapeviney

May Be See Dee works as a headline if you have a clear sub-heading to accompany it: MAY BE SEE DEE? Concussed Demon could play round 1

Yeh im not counting on people switching allegiances, but tapping into the new migrants. It's playing a very long game, and requires more than just plonking ourselves down there, as you say. But all the little things add up, such as the school visits we used to do in that area (do we still do these)? It would probably take a generation to really bear fruit - if we did it the right way, and had some sustained on-field success to accompany it. I think we'll always have the MCC connection as long as we remain at the 'G, but fundamentally changing the fabric of the club is probably what's required for long-term survival and sustained membership growth. 70k members as a short or medium-term target sounds like fairytale stuff to me, even if we were to win a flag or two in the next few years. It's certainly not going to come from MCC people or whoever / wherever we represent now.

The experiment has barely begun, though. Investing in Casey and basing ourselves down that way needs to be seen through a much longer timeframe - it’s not going to pay off until 30, 40 years down the track, when we’re properly embedded in the community and have had time to form a relationship with the people who live there. Tim and Gonzo make a good point about possible player pushback against a full move that way, but everything else screams Casey to me. Identifying the growth in that part of the city when we did - and jumping in there - was extremely smart thinking in my view, and going all-in might be the better long-term option if we truly want to attract 70,000 members down the track.

The sad thing is that for many people, the booing and the controversy is how they’ll remember Goodes, rather than his remarkable football feats and the superstar of the game that he was. Nicky Winmar is much the same - he’s said in interviews that he understands how the incident at Vic Park is an iconic moment in football history - there’s even a statue of it - but for him, it’s just a reminder of the worst day of his life.

So no-one could be bothered driving for an hour to watch training from behind a fence and then writing a long report about it? This forum is hopeless!

That is heartbreaking. RIP Mark

Merry Christmas and happy holidays Demonlanders. It's been a strange old year. This pretty much nails it ?

Not as tired as the rest of us. Stay on topic.

Watching Arsenal fans watch the North London derby is my new favourite past-time ?

This just came in the post.. I've got mail on Ben Brown!

I've seen it suggested elsewhere on here before that the Big Freeze should be shifted from QB to the Melbourne-Essendon game, an idea I like. QB won't lose anything of its status or crowd, but it would lift the Dees-Bombers game into the blockbuster category - a win for both clubs and the league. And I also agree with @Wrecker45and others that it's long past overdue for Neale to be named Australian of the Year - what are they waiting for?

My brother came across this while cleaning out the house today. Someone must have the full set of 56 - all the sorry letters (and now emails) dating back to 1965. It begins: "I feel sure that you are probably relieved that the football season, for us anyway, is now over." How else to spin a season in which we won 1 game, by 1 point? The good news is the coach can see light at the the end of the tunnel, and if we donate to the club, the funds "will be utilised in acquiring some top name interstate recruits for next season." Now where have I heard all that before?

Bigger than the Weideman surprise? You wrote him off just as emphatically..

Updated for 2020 with new crying victim Charlie Dixon. I'll be shedding a tear too if Jack leaves and we have to close this thread.

It's hard to think of a more polarising player in the modern era, and I'll never forget the 2017 B & F when large sections of the room booed when Jack's departure was mentioned. My favourite version of the different calls of QB 2017 is from 3AW - Tim Lane nails the drama of the occasion, and I love how you can see and hear the crowd rise in expectation as the ball travels down the southern wing.

No no no The word when he left Port was that he was already over footy then, and he hasn't regained that desire since crossing to Hawthorn - just happy to earn a pay cheque. This is Crawf shopping around damaged goods. His last good year was 2016.

I've read many poems about Trent throughout the course of his career, but this is definitely the best of them.

That was damn near perfect. Dominated early and got the score on the board before the rain came, and answered quickly every time they goaled. In a season of sometimes turgid footy, that was as watchable as it gets.

It's got nothing to do with being a mod. You're not going to get banned for posting like a primary school kid. I just don't like seeing MFC champions disrespected (Jones) and other players repeatedly abused ad nauseam (Spargo).

Enough already. We get it, you don't rate him. No need to repeat it 10 times over. The way you talk about our players ('Jones a has-been') is pathetic. Criticism and discussion of a player's shortcomings is fine, but repeated three-word posts that say 'X is a spud' contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Unfortunately it's still up there dazzle - it's in the replies section. Absolutely pathetic, and anyone who's on Twitter should make their feelings known.

Yeh nah. Your Jesse Hogan posts were deleted because they were unsubstantiated rubbish ('he was at a party in my apartment building'), not because you had any 'inside mail' that needed censoring. You then pretended to be a lawyer when you were called out on your limited understanding of defamation and the legal risk to which you exposed the site's owners, one of whom is an actual lawyer.

This is the front page of today's West Australian, the perfect example of how Aboriginal people are often treated differently than the rest of us in the criminal justice system. Try and imagine your 86-year-old dementia-suffering grandmother going to jail for spraying a neighbour with a garden hose. You can't. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "An Aboriginal grandmother with dementia spent nearly a week in a maximum-security prison after spraying her neighbour with a garden hose, in a shocking case that has WA Attorney General John Quigley questioning whether she would have been incarcerated if she were white. "The 86-year-old was charged with breaching a 'misconduct restraining order' in April after allegedly spraying her neighbour with water from a garden hose and swearing at her. "In Rockingham Magistrates Court she was remanded for 8 days at Maleluca maximum-security prison and spent 6 days behind bars before Legal Aid was able to free her. " 'I am deeply concerned that a woman in her 80's with dementia was held in prison cells for almost a week without the option of bail,' Mr Quigley said. " 'I have to ask myself whether an elderly white woman with dementia from a wealthy suburb would have found herself in prison in such circumstances."