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I 100% agree with you DD. I also trust Macca, Goody and the rest of our team. Which is why i am positive Stringer's desire to commit to us matters not a jot. We are not interested. I suspect if asked Goody's response would be similar to the call and response chant at live gigs during Australian band The Angles song 'Am i ever going to see you face again'..............

Um, was that an attempt at clarification? If so consider me still confused. You are not channeling deeluded by any chance?

https://youtu.be/Qw9oX-kZ_9k

Or 3. All of the above

I agree with the firts point. I think Smith has big upside. And the fact that the club gave him games early in the season suggest they do to. If he had stayed fit it is possible he might have stayed in the side all year, like Hannan. His aggression at the ball, tackling and accurate kicking is exactly what we lacked late in the season. I hope he has big pre season and has some luck with injury. I do think though that he is similar in some ways to vanders. Big bodies HF's both. I actually think Smith is likely to keep VB out of the side.

A professional courtesy to agree to a trade that you are not keen on? You're kidding aren't you. He doesn't owe us anything. He is professional footballer. Would you leave your job and go to another workplace, one you didn't like and for no more pay as 'professional courtesy'? Players rarely say no trades? Give some examples where a contracted player who is not keen to leave the club agrees to a trade? It is an entirely different scenario for out of contract players. They are much more likely to go to clubs they are not keen on going to To be honest i can't recall if Trengrove was still under contract when we were going to trade him to Richmond. If he was then it is a good example actually. But not of the point you are making. Contracted players leave for more opportunity and clubs trade such players to get a good outcome for them. If contracted he could have said no to a trade but in his case there were good reason to go. The tigers are a strong side who were playing finals and we were the opposite. He was struggling to get senior time at the dees, the writing was on the wall in terms of how the club saw his future (and no doubt this was made clear to) and they needed inside mids and wanted him. We were going to get pick 10 for that deal (and use it for Lever). A win win win. Watts on the other hand is very unlikely to play much VFL footy at the dees. The only reason he would is because of insufficient application. If he was traded and showed insufficient application at his new club he would also be playing in the magoos. So where's the advantage for him in moving clubs if it is not for more opportunity at senior level?

No worries. He might want to leave that is true. But there is no evidence is he is unhappy at the club. And i maintain that he will have zero interest in going to a club in the bottom half of the ladder. Why would he? He's had more than his fair share of being in crap teams

Who is assuming that?

No. No. No A million times no. Why on earth would watts agree to a trade to the blues? The crows maybe (and he would slot in beaitifully in that side). But not the blued. AND WATTS NEEDS TO AGREE TO ANY TRADE AS HE IS A CONTRACTED PLAYER!!!!

[censored]. He has been sacked. Good luck to him but he won't be coming to our club. i am 100% certain of that.

What do we know? An all australian premiership player whose ability is not in question is effectively sacked by his coach. A coach who from the beginning of his tenure has made clear his coaching philosophy is based on a team first culture and total buy in. No mystery here.

Not sure how old you are. But when i was a young fella the appropriate response to this comment would have been: Der Fred

Exactly. And in fact the examples LT lists if stupid behaviour are powerful arguments to not even consider a player whose current club could not have made it any clearer has significant behavioural issues. Talk about letting a fox into the henhouse. As cooney said it is unheard of what the doggies are doing with stringer. Someone above compares getting lewis to the opportunity of getting stringer. Please. We got lewus because of his leadership. Because as all dees fans we desperately need more leaders. Not less.

And not wanting Stringer equates to accepting mediocrity?

Counselling and legal advice? Or mates?

I do. What right minded person wouldn't? And i'm out (damned recent posts column)..............

I'm not. Not a chance in hell we are interested. Roos, Goody and PJ are all about building the right culture. As if we want a player who has threatened the culture of a premiership winning side. Maybe a club like the Swans or hawks whose culture is long established and rock solid might consider taking the risk (or some boneheaded club who is desperate) but not a club like us whose culture in the formative stage.

Agree. I think his main skills that has some attraction for us is his excellent kicking skills.

i know i am repeating myself but Jack is only 'gone' if he agrees to a trade or they elect to pay out his contract (which would be included in our salary cap). He has a contract for at least next year and perhaps even 2019. If he is interested in going it would only be to a team with a realistic chance of winning a flag in the next 2-3 years. Which outside of us leaves the Crows, Tigers, GWS and Swans (the cats are gone). Yes they could threaten to play him in the VFL if he refuses to agree to a trade. But i very much doubt they would make that threat, let alone carry it out. And those that think he is a lazy footballer who loves the party lifestyle would probably think he would take them up on the offer anyway. So Watts stays unless a trade involves him going to the Crows, Tigers, GWS or Swans.

Damn

Stringer?

When Stringer is officially traded I am looking forward to this headline (remember you saw it here first - unless it has already been used!) DOG GONE

A bit like the lions king's circle of life

Oh i thought it referred to the year judd won the norm smith medal....

Agree. Very much a goody style player. A very consistent player. Good mark and good kick. I think he is a little slow though, which isnt an issue in of itself but we have a surfeit of slow players.