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Yet consider the armchair critics joy were he to 'come back early' and miss more footy. 'Haven't a clue", "more mismanagement like Hogan 2013" etc etc. Get him right, then play him. Only if you are vying for finals, or for top 4 or 2, and have a full team around them, and depth, none of which applies to us, should this be considered.

It would be fascinating to know - were these just two random tests or were more at Collingwood tested at the same time? Or at around the same time?

He always finds the culprit. He has had a positive test: Saad got, what, 2y. Crowley is guilty , has been unbelievably stupid, and surely cannot expect one minute less. Where the hell did he get the stuff? Total brain fade, or, deliberate flouting of the law. Wow. WADA are getting really serious. Do EssUndone read the news (other than that which flatters / excuses them)? This guy is the #1 prosecutor and would not have taken on a dud case. Can't wait.

Not sure which I would prefer- Hird presser after a guilty verdict with life ban, or Roos presser after consecutive MFC victories.Not sure which is more likely either.

Lane's article raised a point that has hardly been mentioned before in this whole sordid tale. The rights of EssUndone's opponents to be able to fairly compete against possibly enhanced opposition. The Bummer fans cry "unfair". Did they cry "unfair" when Oz swimmers couldn't keep up with their Chinese competitors. I bet they did. When our gymnasts fell short of those from the Soviet Bloc?? I bet they did.

Yes, he has been extremely disappointing. But, at the time, almost all the "experts" rated Toump > Wines. Such is the inexactitude of drafting prospectively. Retrospectively is much easier. Hawthorn did ok from their tanking, and it turned out that Roughy and Frankenstein turned out ok Collingwood got a flag as well. as mentioned above, JT was almost universally rated highly...seemed to have good pace at the time.

Four players, two or three developing talks, inherited by Roos - of course it is all his fault. Do you think Roos should be sacked ? Replaced by whom?? And please define schweler - couldn't find it in any dictionary or on line.

Can anyone comment on ANB? Nothing inspiring in the listed better players after the senior's drubbing.

True perspective. Top vs bottom.

Hard to get games into players who are out injured. But I do get your gist.

So like Frawley last year, doesn't even show the self pride to disguise it.

Sadly our lack of depth (and injuries to many of our best 22 - no excuse for the depths of insipidness today) will prevent as many changes as their should be.

Roos isn't out there disgracing himself though lack of effort. I do feel for poor Tom McDonald. He was hurting badly last week, and gets the brunt of our lack of midfield. Without him we would be looking at 187.

Can't spell. Wadayoo mean ducked.

Dawes 2 marks. Spencer nil. Just not enough return from our big men.

Great mark [P], great tackle Garlett. Pity neither could kick straight. :-(((((

FFS he can only play where he is selected. How about a "well done" instead of constant negativity. How many goals have YOU kicked at VFL level? How about - he has to start somewhere. Bloody hell !!!

Nobody seems able to kick any distance in the forward line

Anyone think this club ain't cursed.Of course we have so much depth in skilled running defenders that Salem's injury won't hurt us at all. That is nearly half our best 22 out this week, and for a struggling team with little depth that will always devastate.

FFS - I can't be bothered going back but are you the same posters who vehemently criticized the club for "mismanaging Hogan" last year when he played with a sore back? I am absolutely certain that the club and their healthcare team know a hell of a lot more about what is his p ogled why he is being rested

Thank goodness it looks as if whatever they took at half time has worn off. I guess they will play the victim game. OMG I hate that mob - they have ruined numerous Friday nights for me - I have always watched whatever games were on but just cannot.

Sure is an absolute bugger of a disease. Didn't watch these interviews but it must be so hard for and especially those close to him knowing where it is heading.

Can't / won't watch the game but it looks from the scoreboard as if Dank may have found "something to give them a lift" at half time

Who knows. They may all be in Switzerland at a hearing . Or in jail, if not as inmates then visiting their coach and their board. B

regain faith