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On 6/18/2020 at 10:35 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

 Hamish “It’s all me” Mclachlan loves Cripps. He took one big mark and goal last week but imo he was BEATEN by Clarry Oliver. I’m not sure he even saw the match. Ridiculous  

Correct. I think the coaches votes went 10 for trac and 8 for Clarry, meaning both coaches thought they were best and 2nd best afield?

But leave Gil alone, he's handled the whole covid thing pretty well. The only major sporting CEO still standing, and deservedly so.

On 6/16/2020 at 9:55 PM, Unleash Hell said:

What makes you so certain another coach would do better with this group?

 

An interesting aside to this thread is that I think the story was that Roos wanted Dew as his successor but the swans, rightly, held him to his contract. Goodwin wins the gig.

Its a long bow but there's a bit of love for Dew as a coach after recent Suns success and will be worth watching this story unfold.

What might have been sliding door possibly?

11 hours ago, My name is legion said:

Jones out. 1 less player for the opposition who he kicks it to at every opportunity.

This decision fills me with some confidence in the FD. Sure the team has other issues but no one is gifted games. The skipper decision was another.

Harmes didn't make his name as a backman so must have a lock down role

5 hours ago, djray said:

Harry used to host a show on ABC on Saturday evenings during the VFL season called Today's Football. Panellists included Len Thompson, Carl Ditterich, Thorold Merrett, Roy Wright, 'Chick' Smallhorn, Murray Considine, Sergio Silvagni, Errol Hutchison, Tony Ongarello, Percy Beames and others. 

They would often have a special guest player on. I remember players such as Mal Brown, Bruce Duperouzel and Kevin Murray appearing. 

and the great Doug Bigelow  and Kevin 'Skeeter' Coughlan who played 90 games for pies and hawks at just 163 cm and 56 kg.!

6 hours ago, Pates said:

Ok lots of changes I can think of but I think we shouldn’t be changing things up too much. I’ll give my reasons below  

 

Other change I thought about were Jones for AvB, could well happen as Jones was way off. But I think Jones will be given a bit of grace given his standing at the club, but he’s on thin ice. 

I expressed concern last year that the AFL is littered with players who don't know when to retire or clubs that lack foresight and put individual above club. In contrast think of the Hawks who retired a premiership skipper in 1991 - Michael Tuck. 

If I was a player on large 6 figure payment I would stay also, hence up to the club.  Jones made the correct decison for his family to seek another year. The club pulled the right rein making max captain but baulked at the full move.

It will now just be sad seeing Nathan limp to the line and the club will be at fault for this.

Time will tell.

1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

Jordan as an emergency is also very interesting. He must be training really well

On Max's zoom meeting to fans this week asked at the end who his standout player was pre season up to this week - it was Jordan.

12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

 

I'm even more surprised that Hunt is in the side.

 

This was my main take away also.  I hope his kicking has improved to target and has lost the tendency to long bomb.  otherwise some surprises but a good list .

11 hours ago, binman said:

They got told 30 mins before the game the season was on hold (but in reality likely finished). 

They are on the other side of the country in a ghost town (even when not under semi lock down).

Talk here on dl that they had to move hotels.

They face a 12 hour trip home.

They are by and large a bunch of young guys. 

Agree. Let's cut them some slack.

Realistic view, . The above must have had a mental impact on the team.

But the game last night confirmed/ showed for me several players still in 22 are most likely past it for sure and will open up spots for others  if the season re-starts or next year.

Forward entries still not fixed - Ball firmly in Goodwin's court 

Gone are Hibbered, Spargo, ANB.   Still quality to come in like AVB, Hore, Salem, Weideman, Jackson.....

32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I think you can sign up for a 14 day Kayo trial or $10 for 2 weeks. Quite reasonable really..

3 months for free.  Just connected now and picture quality is great, depending on TV of course

4 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i always thought it was oldest, continuous, professional, football club

This is the correct answer by Daisy.

The questions is about the OLDEST continuous FOOTBALL club - which is the  mighty MFC. I think the Cats are second oldest

The MCC is not the oldest sporting club, there are older cricket clubs in the UK.

Sheffield United was formed in 1889.  There was probably an ealrier verison prior to united but again, not coninuous.

15 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

If you bothered to listen, Tommy Mc said Spargo is one the best kicks, kicking into the 50

So he will be link between mids and fwds

Thanks - I haven't seen that quote, but I saw Spargo deliver into forward 50 under pressure a few times in the 2018 finals series at the G and given his age at the time saw  potential. I also think he is a good decision maker.

Clearly Goodwin sees that his pre-season has earnt him a spot which is good to see (effort and results will be rewarded etc.. is the message here.)

15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Totally different circumstances. You cannot compare this to anything else. 
Meanwhile an NRL player has tested positive AFTER playing a game...

That’s how this virus ? spreads

It is irresponsible madness to start the season now. 
 

People have to rediscover books for awhile....

Of course they are!

My point was the history of AFL in difficult situations, and how it can/does offer comfort to some those affected. I don't need it but many do.

When the Chief Medical Officer signs off then I am satisfied with that. 

11 hours ago, binman said:

No NRL player. An amateur player.

Thanks Binman.  As ScoMo said yesterday, ignore anything on social media putting forward 'facts'.

Take note SWYL please

25 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I know i am in the minority, but this is crazy. 
but i will watch those crunching tackles and see the odd bit of saliva flying through the air...

Got to please the sponsors i suppose, and all those betting agencies

I am sympathetic to your views also, and at the risk of trolling also think in these times, the Top level AFL will be a huge comfort to many as the only link to normalcy. Aussie rules has a major sociological impact, even to those not interested.

It must however only be done if safe.

Two examples, again, not related to the current situation or comparable, but to illustrate  (sort of) the game's use:

1. In World War 2, the Australia forces attack on the Italians lines in Libya commenced with the assies kicking a football into no-man's-land as a signal to attack.

Just an example.

2. Another is Chicken Smallhorn winning the Changi Brownlow.

9 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

Best I've seen a Demons back 6 look.

Just read the drop of the ball, defensive coordination, numbers at the contest, ball distribution (circulation) pressing high, the ball was falling into their laps.

Hawthorn had no method bring the ball into the f50, completely shut down.

Thanks. Much appreciated

The marketing Dept. will be thrilled about last night. They have a monumental task after 2019's efforts on field.

However the membership weekly numbers trends are turning interesting, with the tally now moving over Feb from 4000 down on last year to half that, and better than 2018 equivalent timing.

I am wondering if a join-up recovery might be a  coincidence with the efforts of the club's sales pitch re: To hell and Back", the Family Day and importantly all the good news coning out of the club in Feb. (no injures (sort of) c.f.2019, Burgess, gawn)

AND the Marsh series performance.

I am way more optimistic now than end of last season on retaining the growth - provided on-field it doesn't all go belly up. The team needs to be, and should be, at least 3 wins and 2 losses on worst case after Round 5, and then could be on its way, further helping sales.

5 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Can we close that Viney liability thread now.

How many possies did he get?

Ecellent call . Was disgraceful.

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

3 from 3 (I refuse to count the Essendon game as we played next to no one in it, plus it doesn't suit my narrative...)

Pretty much no injuries (fingers crossed for AVB and Weid)

Some encouraging signs, especially with the defensive unit

Gawny made a successful comeback

Fritsch kicks 5, Milkshake 4

We'll roll the Eagles by 10 goals in Round 1.

Bring it on!

Couldn't watch any of the game. A poster talked about how good defence looks.

What role did May have in this re organising etc. Same query for lever? 

Thoughts?

Just now, Pates said:

Actually I don’t have much of an issue with Stacks bump on Viney. It wasn’t aimed at knocking Jacks head off, and he just crunched him in the right spot for maximum effect. 

But I tell you what it won’t surprise me if Jack has pencilled the Tigers game in as a statement for himself. The physical pain would’ve sucked, but I reckon he’ll be keen to give one back. 

Agree. I just felt TGR needed to fully describe the act, rather than tell us how good Stack is.  Viney getting up off the canvas was more meaningful to me character-wise than taking cheap shots like Stack.

15 hours ago, TGR said:

Stack’s bump was absolutely brilliant, textbook, fair...
 

 

You forget to add Cowardly, as are many 'famous' hits in AFL. e.g. Mark Yates on Brereton. 

In years to come when more is known about concussion long term,  your attitude will be ranked with those climate change deniers and others of similiar ilk.,

1 minute ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

2019, predicted us to be 4th and Brisbane 12th.

Adelaide to win the 2018 flag and West Coast to finish 8th.

 

In April 2019 the Roar predicted the final 8 and had only one place correct. They correctly tipped 6 of the 8 finalists although those 6 picked themselves and had this gem of a prognostication about the Dees.  I loved the nothing had happened in pre-season comment.

Melbourne tops the ladder with at least 17 wins
And here we go. This column has already covered its feelings towards the Dees, and nothing that happened in the preseason has changed its mind.

Melbourne will start the year with a couple of its key pieces on the sidelines, but it won’t matter given the strength of its midfield, and the aggressiveness of coach Simon Goodwin and his crew’s strategies.

21 hours ago, sisso said:

I don’t think 0-2 would be a complete disaster with our draw as long as we don’t get smashed by 10 goals in each match

Agree. Its how we perform in the first 2  games that counts.

Close losses will make everyone afraid, and the team could/should easily go to 3 -  2 up(Freo, saints, Gold Coast) and then onward and upward

20 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Big shoes to fill...

Sure has.  Brett Lovett.

44 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

David King

Top eight: West Coast, GWS, Richmond, Collingwood, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane Lions, Port Adelaide, North Melbourne

Premiers: West Coast

Wooden spoon: Gold Coast

Brownlow Medal: Marcus Bontempelli

Coleman Medal: Tom Lynch (Rich)

Rising Star: Max King (StK)

Bold prediction: Welcome back the 2014 version of Ken Hinkley as Port Adelaide thrives.

 

 

One thing we know is that all of these Top 8 predictions on membership will be wrong as they ignore historical trend of at least 2 and usually 3 changes each year. Again, journalists and others looking at history with little thought. (a la Champion Data) 

Cam Mooney's prediction of the Dees as Premiers is at least based on past lived experience and evaluation of potential, not looking at 2019 in isolation.

David King will be closest to the pin with 2 changes, but clearly Dees will take Roos entrance

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Every club is always looking for that edge. No other club has managed to leverage the strategic advantage of a leap year like the mighty MFC. Go Demons!

Priceless comment.!