Demon17

On 11/18/2019 at 9:11 AM, dworship said:

What are the chances some muppet gets up and harangues the officials about last year. This is my only concern about spending the time to attend.

If we get a reasonable update directly from Goodwin , Pert and Bartlett and they don't talk in platitudes when answering questions it might be worth attending.

Some intelligent questions would go a long way as well. Things that have been queried here recently would be good. Eg; What's going on with the Coaching Panel and the appointment of a Forwards coach.

For myself, I would like to know if we have approached the MCC about access to the ground for Pre-Season training even if we only get it once or twice.

 

Good summary of  reasonable expectations for tonight. I hope my time won't be wasetd.

19 hours ago, Steno said:

Really? How many 3kms are they running in a game? It is a relative measure of fitness: not an absolute. I would be more concerned if no improvement in individuals time come Feb. 

You need to look at combination of results to get even a moderate view of their overall fitness/endurance/speed. Would prefer a midfielder who was quick in repetitive 20/50m's and a 13:45-14m Tan than a 12-13min Tan runner...

Good analysis.

My view is that its great ANB is doing well, but at crunch time, can he please kick gimme goals and not break my heart this coming season otherwise its all for nought.. 

2 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

We don't need one. If May and Lever stand up, our backline is set. We've got our wings sorted. We win contested footy like no other. The ball will be in our forward line all day. Even Weiderman should  look good.

 

Dont agree completely.  Last season we had more inside 50s many times and got beaten by 6 goals.

The fowards seemed shambolic. Although the entries often were rubbish.

30 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Unfortunately Viney isn't that either. Probably the two blokes who I have seen become really animated on field are Gawn and Lever. 

To me these two are the stand out leaders for me personally. 

Unfortunately  i suspect jack doesn't have the emotional awareness that he should hand over to max. 

History is littered with these types and we have ours.

22 hours ago, Yung Blood said:

Arguably our most natural footballer. Reads the ball better then his opponent most of the time, marking and kicking is already of really high level. Moves smoothly and with confidence. I have no doubt he will go up another level. Love Fritta.

Fully agree YB.

His pack marks in defence in his first final, vs the Cats in 2018 when the game was up for grabs were a standout for me. He was harshly  treated by match Cttee when dropped for prelim. Given he did have a few clangers in the hawks final, but had enough points to play.

The fact that he fronted up with a good mindset in 2019 does the young man credit.

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Fairly accurate I think. If we finish 8th with the potential to win the first round of finals it will IMO be a true indication of our talent. And after 2019 it will be a good year.

So our defence is 13th and our forward line is 14th.

But we make 8th overall.

This guy (Goddard, not you Old Dee) is an idiot analysis-wise.

Will be offered a job at Champion Data for sure.

35 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Makes sense, it will be our biggest weakness in 2020 unless Tom McDonald can recapture his 2018 form and Weideman can double his output.

Dermot Brereton believes TMAc is not a natural forward and doesn't understand leading, positioning etc. and thus easy to negate. 2018 showed lack of analysis simply by opposition. 2019 was more reflective of his capabilities in playing deep forward.

I suspect he is correct .

15 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Really good appointment. Lewis was a beautiful kick and decision maker for most of his career, so hopefully he is able to coach those skills into our players. Our kicking skills and decision making is obviously a weakness, so good it’s officially being addressed.

Have said for a long time I think Lewis will make a good coach one day. He’s a very smart guy and seems an astute communicator and mentor.

Often I reckon this is our weakness with quite a few players.

In Geelong's halcyon days post 2007 they had an Elite Decision Making coach - David Wheadon. A brilliant thinker of the game and imparter of knowledge.

When discussing the 2011 premiership he told me how important this issue was to that win, including Harry Taylor's marking at CHB. Everyone in the media raved about Tom Hawkins, but as David noted Hawkins was playing on an opponent on 1 leg (Chris tarrant I think??). Its the team decision strength across the filed that stood out over the day.

The Lewis appointment can only be upside in this for the Dees. 

And an elite standard-setter and giant footy brain inside the tent.

15 hours ago, Sigil said:

I'm loving all the decisions and announcements this off-season.

 

At least we don't die wondering!

Well said and you could add how tight the club seems in regards to no leaking and backgrounding . Its up to Goody and the team now but they have been given the platform off season they need to succeed

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

“I’m a bit staggered by Melbourne to be honest,” Cornes told SEN’s the Captain’s Run.

“I like James Harmes. He comes into the Sunday Footy Show often, he has a laugh, he is a terrific guy, but when we comment in the media, we don’t comment on their personality and their character.

“Melbourne has given Harmes a five-year contract. He’s 24 years old, a good player, plays a role through the midfield, but a five-year deal for James Harmes?”

“On the back of the long-term deal they gave Steven May that didn’t work, on the back of giving Jake Lever a long-term deal that didn’t work, giving up pick six which could have been Ben King.

“I just think some of the decisions coming out of the Melbourne Football Club this year are staggering for me.

“When you look at the players that have been given long term deals, you’re looking at the likes of Rory Sloane, Lachie Neale, Charlie Curnow, Dylan Shiel, Nathan Fyfe, Toby Greene, Chad Wingard, Jared Polec.

“James Harmes getting a five-year deal, it absolutely staggers me. I just can’t get my head around it. Is his footballing ability worthy of a five-year deal when he still had one more year to go (on his contract)? I’m not sure.”

Cornes believes that in hindsight, the Demons would want to take the Steven May trade back.

“What would you rather have? An unfit Steven May who can’t get out on the park and is 28, or would you rather have one of the brightest key forward prospects in the game in Ben King at pick six,” he said.

“I know a lot of that is hindsight, but gee they’ve given up a lot to get Lever and May.”

I enjoy listening to cornes passion but he needs a headline weekly for media relevancy. 

His language and sentence structure is apalling and he states something hasn't worked when its 20% into the plan. 

Just now, Demon17 said:

Good question.  When teams like GC and Brisbane play there its never a sellout.  And given the capacity is still only 35K,  where are all those fans.  It should be full. Expensive seats are sold out, but not GA. The 2019 Kardinia Park attendances were as follwos against teams noted below:

Melb`27K

GWS  28K

Eagles   28K

Dogs   31K

Swans  29K

Crows  28K

Saints  24K

North  21K

 

Don't get me wrong I love the idea of an old fashioned suburban - type team and Geelong is the last of those so good luck to them.  Just pointing out how it works down here.

Club survives on having some of the largest return poker machines venues, which are really bad news in Geelong also, however I think they have seen the light on that.

Good question.  When teams like GC and Brisbane play there its never a sellout.  And given the capacity is still only 35K,  where are all those fans.  It should be full. Expensive seats are sold out, but not GA. The 2019 Kardinia Park attendances were as follows against teams noted below:

Melb`27K

GWS  28K

Eagles   28K

Dogs   31K

Swans  29K

Crows  28K

Saints  24K

North  21K

OFFICIAL capacity:  36,000

Don't get me wrong I love the idea of an old fashioned suburban - type team and Geelong is the last of those so good luck to them.  Just pointing out how it works down here and internally the club should be asking whats wrong with our supporters?

In terms of local fan participation, these numbers are a disgrace after the huge spend at the grounbd

Club survives on having some of the largest return poker machines venues, which are really bad news in Geelong also, however I think 

5 hours ago, 58er said:

Why is it close to sellouts each home game then D 17 ?

Sorry jealousy is a curse If I was a Cats fan I would be in heaven with 9 home games etc.

Guarantees them into the 8 each year also!

Good question.  When teams like GC and Brisbane play there its never a sellout.  And given the capacity is still only 35K,  where are all those fans.  It should be full. Expensive seats are sold out, but not GA. The 2019 Kardinia Park attendances were as follwos against teams noted below:

Melb`27K

GWS

Don't get me wrong I love the idea of an old fashioned suburban - type team and Geelong is the last of those so good luck to them.  Just pointing out how it works down here.

Club survives on having some of the largest return poker machines venues, which are really bad news in Geelong also, however I think they have seen the light on that.

2 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

Try living in the town.......

I hate that they make finals due to a soft fixture then flunk it in September most years. 
 

I know asking for equality is just too much to ask for 

Same here. I live there and refuse to attend kardinia park. Its a deadset elitist club where you need a bank loan to reserve a decent seat. Vast majority of townsfolk can't afford to attend and the grounds development has sucked much needed grant capital funds from more important building upgrades.

Its got me stuffed why the locals follow. Having daid that there's been huge influx of new residents. And most are bemused by the parochialism of older  locals.

They say its a community facilitu also but try booking the facilities.

3 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

We can just complain to ombudsman that it’s not safe to play with the building cladding they have!!!

That's not as stupid as it sounds. The new grandstands could be on that secret govt. Cladding list.

Can Demonland please commence preparing an FOI submission along these lines.?

25 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

That is tough on the Gold Coast to have the 3rd hardest.  And Richmond get off fairly lightly again as they did in 2019.  Even easier than Carlton.

I'm very happy with this draw in regards to opponents.

Only play 1 top 8 team twice. The pies

Play 3 bottom teams twice . Suns saints dockers.

The champion data view of 3rd easiest draw is a reasonable call.

Basic view i know and many unknowns but face value could be good of team performs that is.

45 minutes ago, solly21 said:

Is there any chance Geelong can actually play the last round away from GMHBA stadium. They have played at GMHBA stadium in the last round every year since 2012 onwards. This 1 reason i believe there finals record has been crap since as they have too much of a soft kill. 

Weĺ put..

Accepted opinion now commonly noted is cats are a great home and away side. But draw favours then get them found out in finals. 

3 hours ago, Youngwilliam said:

If we are serious about the 2020 season then Round 1 against WC has to be a must win. (Yes all games are a must win) but this one creates the foundation. It wouldn't be a test if it was Gold Coast at the G for R1.

Well summed up but I would add it can be seen as an 8 point game for MFC if they win, given most teams will lose over there.

If its a loss just the usual 4 points effect.

52 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Collingwood, Hawthorn and Richmond play on the G as tenant clubs.  

Good point but i don't think they are in the frame.  Geelong  swans or us possibly.

1 hour ago, RedLegs23 said:

Sam Edmund reporting that he want's to play his footy in Melbourne. Think's he'll be training with the Dees. Real chance.

he said last night on the 7 news interview that he couldn't think of anything better than playing on "... the G..."

Its us I reckon.

1 minute ago, Forest Demon said:

We have played well 2 of the last 3 games there. Pretty much a free swing. Bring it on.

I like your approach. BUT 3.20 in Perth in late March. 

59 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

^^ Confirmation we're heading interstate.

Have a feeling we're opening the season against Port at Adelaide Oval, or perhaps GC at Metricon.

Confirmation from whom?

Based on article in Age 30 minutes ago (or in fact a strategic leak from AFL to keep horse racing off the back page), by my reading there is still one game needed forr the G.  Being either bombers or MFC.

Otherwise, its west Coast at Perth, GC away or Port Adelaaide away.

On 10/27/2019 at 5:13 PM, Kent said:

And the data analysis influences the quality of the disposals and the goal kicking in what way?

Yawn!!!!

They don't.

But  good analysts will underpin and assist with strategy and opposition analysis greatly. Another good move and will aid the improvement of the list and individual performance if taken heed of by Goody..

The day the analyst pulls on the tracksuit and takes goal kicking practice is the day Brian Taylor has lost his mind and done a career change. As an Ex-plumber would be great at maths after working out all those sewer line gradients to make [censored] flow correct direction.

6 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Scully could barely kick over a jam tin, let alone hit targets at 50m.

We must have been at different games.

18 hours ago, Undeeterred said:

Looks great in a humming side when it all clicks, looks a disaster when it’s not going well.

But he deserves his spot and another crack next year.

He deserves a spot on the list but if he's best 22 we're in real trouble. 2 way running is impressive only if the kick execution is, say,  sublime, like tom scully when fit. He could hit a target at 50m.

Otherwise ANB is  just another great athlete in footy boots.

On 10/20/2019 at 6:30 PM, Wiseblood said:

Didn't tell us a whole lot we didn't already know, however:

One thing that did stand out form the article is the 'time on ground' average for both players.  I think Tomlinson is around 85% and Langdon at 86%.  They compared this number to Scully, one of the hardest running mids around according to Jay Clark, and his TOG is at 84%.

The idea here is that it will give our in and under mids more time to rest during a game, whether that be up forward or a spell on the bench, and will keep us fresher for longer, giving us the ability to play better footy for sustained periods rather than just short bursts.

The Scully comment was interesting, in that I understood Tomlinson bettered him in time trials whilst at GWS and was generally coming in first in those consistently.

The TOG confirm this important ability for sure.