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I thought the umps were reasonable tonight, and in fact we were lucky a few times with htb. Anyone else the same? I normally expect a few more decisions to go against us.

The cheats came out swinging we rolled with it, but the cleanest passages of play were all ours, and the way we get out of jail in defensive half is a joy to watch. Gus Bowey and Langdon just did wonders for us in the back 50. Hunt actually started ok and I thought it was his best game of the 3 so far in 2022, still wouldn’t mind if he was dropped but he has improved. Harmes was stiff to not get in my votes but I was angry when he missed Jacks with the HB. So happy for Weid, have been a fan for awhile, and he really took a chance, am still worried about him getting sucked under the flight of the ball, but then he played to his strength of playing on lead and he was one grabbing not juggling which for me was a super positive sign. Smith had some boo boos but he saved a goal in the middle on Stringer in a marking contest, just as stringer was starting to run hot, Stringer didn’t feature after that, he is in the team before Hunt for mine. Stringer for all that he is a germ is a very strong SOB I thought this was a big game moment for Smith. Also, this game was close because we let them in it, it was our equal worst set shot conversion in two years. We would have killed them if we had been a bit straighter they would have been in their shells. They will think they are good because they pushed us a little when in reality they turn the ball over far too much to be a flag threat.

Gus - 20 Marks, high DE, has covered the Salem hole, Tmac to wing, Gus back, Weid and Brown up forward. Oliver - everyone gets a lick of the ice-cream. Langdon - huge running pressure. Weid - 4.3 is the reason for 3 votes, should have been 6. Viney - combining much better with Oliver, anyone noticed his 22 pace? He has found another gear, so happy for him. Bowey - only one boo boo all night super reliable.

He looks heavy, am very glad he's not playing us, he can be a total wrecking ball when he turns it on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VFL/AFL_premiers So in my opinion we actually sit clear 4th on all time AFL/VFL Premierships, we have the best winning ration out of Richmond and Hawthorn by far at 13/5, Only Brisbane has won 3 x as many as they have lost and that is off a small sample size. But the table clearly has forgotten to include AFLX, so our score should read 13.1 Oh and I have an average of watching GF highlights twice a week.

Yes I agree, I would see several of the tradeables packaged up and hoping the draftees step up to cover the salary of Jackson and Oliver. I also am happy for us to put in an order for paper bags from Visy.

There is a lack of respect in the word cull, Triage would be my choice, all of these players have demonstrated buy in and team 1st philosophy, it is with great regret that we cannot keep all that have invested great effort in the club. (also keep in mind that some players we will not save much coin on). The CHF spot confuses the hell out of me, will Tmac/M.Brown/Weid vs Van Rooyen FWIW my thinking on Age vs $ Value vs Esprit d'corps vs Talent metric, I would group players like this. Tradeable and might save some dollars - make no mistake, I love all of these guys. Hunt - his run would get some interest Tomlinson or Petty (Probably keep Petty) Petty gets the nod for mobility, God forbid May goes down Tomlinson to be the Gorilla minder. Harmes - not sure of his dollars. Weid - this is his last season despite 2 year contract to do something Jordan - His 2nd half 21 and this year not the same player, why? Pickett - I'd sell him to keep Jackson if it came down to a choice between the two, this is the only reason, love his pressure, I am also sure to change my tune when he has a day out with 6+. Not tradeable May - part of our defensive DNA Salem - part of our defensive DNA Petracca - will be a part of our all time best Jackson - honestly no ceiling on this guy. Viney - anyone who doesn't understand our need for his intensity and aggression doesn't understand football. Lever - part of our defensive DNA Gawn - Premiership Captain and driver of standards. Langdon - he scared an entire team onto the other side of the pitch with his hard running, fair compliment from GC Brayshaw - I see him as a very high on Esprit d' corps value. Oliver - will be a part of our all time best Bowey - part of our defensive DNA Rivers - part of our defensive DNA Neal-Bullen (key ingredient along with Langdon for our running defensive offensive pressure) Fritsch - 6 goal GF, such a threat, is the reason I could cope with Pickett leaving (just). Ben Brown - age nearly puts him in another category but he is not replaceable with out current cap pressure, and I think his form has been improving steadily, a real chance for Coleman and we are not paying overs, I'm tipping he has 4 years left at about the current standard. Free to good home (flippant I know, but we are kidding ourselves if we think they are on big dollars/have much time left, despite excellent service and having been great servants of the club), personally i think these guys keep playing for low dollars and they are not going to fix salary cap issues. Tmac ( I would keep him for his value as a spare defender) Hibberd - Has been great, looking for a sign that he has more time, i still think his nous is ace. Melksham - too inconsistent, and I think provides the least defensive pressure of any forward on our list Baker - skills not there. Can't make up my mind, would kill me to lose them though Sparrow - will he take the next step Spargo - not sure of his dollars, if it is not saving anything keep. Cheap might as well keep Smith - my opinion has changed more on this player than anyone else, kudos to those that could see it. Chandler Dunstan Daw M. Brown No opinion on those yet to debut

I get you are being I presume (slightly tongue in cheek) but wanted to say our enemies also help define us, as much as I hate Collingwood, (and Carlton/Essendon) I never want them gone, game would be poorer for it (same with Saints, Dogs and Cats). North, and Hawks are disposable, I actually agree with the long term AFL strategy of clubs in growth corridors, GWS and GCFC will eventually have a support base, Football is an existential threat to Australian Rules, we need it as the national game, we are a small country market/population base wise. I see the AFLW and the expansion teams as future proofing the game.

Getting to the point that is not a joke anymore, so critical with Salem and Lever out.

I re-watched the GC game, Our defensive setup considering the current outs is just exceptional, huge props to both players and coaches. Our link up under pressure is still a thing of beauty. Am genuinely worried about injuries and exhaustion, not sure Rivers is fully fit, and the weather murdered our players, heat is literally kryptonite and might be why GC go well in the first few games of the year. If you read about the effects of humidity on elite athletes you will understand we gave a really solid performance but a few of our guys might not be 100%. Am actually sweating on Brayshaw he took some heavy hits. I also was super impressed with Dew's coaching, they came with a plan for us, fair play. So to selection: I am still not convinced re Hunt (not a popular opinion last week but sticking with it). Tmac down back, Brown in to play Tmac's role, Hunt out. Unless Hibbered fit, (I still believe players go well against their former clubs), in which case I would swap Hibbered for Hunt. Tmac is doing alot of role work, he wasn't missing, just didn't get reward for effort. Spargo wasn't bad. Smith improved on the week before, bit worried about his hand injury but his closing speed is a weapon, disrupted several GC attacks with it. Hopefully his disposal continues to improve, I see no reason why not, he is getting better every game. Dunstan as sub. I think he is more versatile than Bedford. All of that said, this is a good game to try something new selection wise, I don't think we want to spend all our petrol tickets early in the season and I think some players might be NQR.

Not wrong, losing Jackson would be like losing pre knee Schwarz and more frustrating. I am as nervous as hell.

As much as I love our players, Touk had an exceptional game. One or two Brownlow votes I reckon. A clear second to CP5.

6 Tracc (Brunette Kouta) 5 Bowey (Keith Greig, as per other poster, great call) 4 Dogga (McKernan-remember his breakout games for North) 3 Oliver (Best Redhead ever to play the game) 2 ANB (Langdon is not the only supreme runner we have) 1 Brayshaw (is it too late for him to be fullback for the Wallabies?) Stiff May

Be funny though, Premiership player as a rising star!

Time left?

Love Essendon on the bottom, but the travel thing, I don't care that we travel (I used to hate it), but now we are just as scary on the road as we are at home. Every team fears/respects us anywhere, I think it is amazing that we are now easily the best travelling side. Anywhere anytime as Max says. Kudos again to the coaching team for making this a strength.

Sorry who is wonder boy, forgive my ignorance

Wasn't convinced with Hunt last week, I was by Smith but I guess we are playing GC who will be quite quick.

Thanks for merging threads and sorry for missing this thread to start with. Revised for round 1 - AFL off to a bad start, I have tried every angle to see how it looked like a serious attempt to get the ball, never put his arms in the air. To be fair to the AFL it was the tribunal and not the MRO that gave Willie an out. Robinson actually got lower, first time I have ever had sympathy for this guy. Scoring for Head High: Correct call = 1 pt (think Toby Greene 6 weeks) Insufficient Call =.5 pt (half right i.e. Rioli) Bad Call = 0 (flat out wrong) Bogus Call = -1 (Star player like Paddy getting off or MFC Tax being exercised - where we get slammed extra) Out of however many possible HH Incidents there are during a round. Head High Running score for MRO r1, 2022 = -2/2

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Bevo might need support, neither of us have enough info to compare Goodwin and Bevo, except for the info they are widely acknowledged as genuine people. Bevy OTT? Agreed, he apologized. Quite pathetic ? Too strong, he had a serious wobble. Quite pathetic is the media equating him to Richard Nixon levels of villainy, CW calling for a six figure fine is shrill, OTT and she is doubling down on it. She is just plain mean and frequently a hypocrite, going after the way he looks was just shallow.

Journalists are so precious - next idiotic question to a coach should be followed with the retort 'have you deleted your chat history'. Caro wants Bevo on a cross, totally over the top, and seriously they worry about his moustache, who are they going after next, Merv, Lillee? They want to turn everything into Disney, it's bloody Australia, chill out Brussel sprout - the Front Bar made more sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW5C9oDb3rQ Timestamp 47m21s onwards - comment at 49m

Going to try and keep a running update (with a bit of editorial as is my habit, and absolute bias in anything involving JV). Not going to waste time on the jumper punches etc. Feel free to remind me if I miss an incident and any constructive suggestions please share. Any ideas on other Tribunal matters I/ we should be watching. At the end of the year we can assess if the bump is truly dead, on current evidence no. This weeks MRO report. https://www.afl.com.au/news/724584/match-review-eagle-learns-fate-crow-banned-for-eye-contact Brisbane - Mitch Robinson bump on Xavier Duursma - was graded as careless conduct, high contact and medium impact. I say BS, Robbo is a (~^+, but conduct not careless, he stopped and propped and Duursma got pushed lower. Duty of Care exercised. WCE - Willie Rioli bump on Matt Rowell - graded as careless conduct, medium impact and high contact, resulting in a one-match ban that brings Rioli's comeback to a halt. I say BS, left his feet, no eye for the ball, impact should have been judged high. Intent also was clearly to bump. Scoring for Head High: Correct call = 1 pt (think Toby Greene 6 weeks) Insufficient Call =.5 pt (half right i.e. Rioli) Bad Call = 0 (flat out wrong) Bogus Call = -1 (Star player like Paddy getting off or MFC Tax being exercised - where we get slammed extra) Out of however many possible HH Incidents there are during a round. Head High Running score for MRO r1, 2022 = 0.5/2

Two after a guilty plea, should be used to that. That was text book of what you are not supposed to do. WCE will get some sympathy though for being out of players. If they are serious it is four, ( I don’t think they are serious). Nic Nat just can’t stay on when the game needs to be won, he sat on the pine at the worst time. Rowell was just fantastically brave.

Hell yeah, look at his half Ironman time, and he knows the gameplan. Not like he fell off a cliff. NJ.jfif