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i am not impressed by our wet weather skills, Blues an exception. I think that had more to do with how we go at the G

So have I, did you even read the thread? I've listed where i have been, for 23 years now in harms way (ok Rome has been cushy last couple of years, but I travel a fair bit). I actually feel a bit sorry for you, seeing anyone killed and not being able to do anything must gnaw at you. I can understand with a first hand experience like that you might be damaged. All i am arguing against is this one size fits all approach to islam, it's moronic, we have no argument about the extremists, I want them extinct. But I cannot reconcile all the muslims I know who are good faithful people by any western definition as being the same as nut jobs who commit atrocities like your description.

Yep end of Ramadan, we get a holiday (-; , am enjoying today with a lovely glass of wine.

read the thread muppet, a truck load more than you. I live in Rome because it's the HQ of my organization and i am very glad to say your tax dollars pay my salary, thanks biffen (assuming you earn enough to pay tax).

Nothing civil about his discourse, lazy and without personal insight, on a par with children calling names. @ProDee @ethan @biffen @faulty there are as many deaths committed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism And as many insults as you throw I know three things, you are scared, and thats ok, not everyone gets to be brave, tolerance does not equal leftist (makes me chuckle at a silly attempt to put us in a box, being a racist has nothing to do with politics) and lastly FFS you have no idea about Islam except for what the internet tells you, let me know where you live so I can sponsor some refugees to live near you or contribute to a mosque (I'll donate a $100 in your name) you can learn something. Radical Islam (Salafist etc) doesn't scare me because our western, pluralist culture is stronger, our women contribute to society in a meaningful way, they just can't compete, economically or socially we are going to steamroll them into history. Get worried about something serious like Trump screwing with free trade, China, global warming, etc, because that will stuff your childrens's future not some dersh militia.

gracious ?

how many more times can we burn Freo?, Colin Sylvia didn't set the house on fire over there. I reckon Ross would be a bit suspect. Most of our offloads recently haven't had a dramatic turnaround. Those that we lost unwillingly are a different story...

He is a dog of a player, without doubt good decision making, his ability to read play and leave his man annoys the bejeezus out of me because it's good. But I am confounded by the love he gets from the media for all his dog acts. Even when Viney squared up to him he took a dive, right after being a dog. On 360 Lewis looked like he was biting his tongue, Jack has to back his team mate but Lewis was not into that segment. @Wells 11 Prance (love it) = Prancer https://gifer.com/oTF

they are GOAT contenders for sure, but our two i disagree about being a long way off, viney just as hard and making himself better by dedication just like Voss. 2019 barring curses etc, they will be very close. Notwithstanding the drugs that pair together were incredible, I don't count his injuries against him, was more a conversation about the peak that they reached. Judd's decision making combined with speed, were phenomenal. I used to be so dirty he didnt come to Melbourne but looking back at that period of the club you have to say he was right.

Not this year, but soon, Oliver and Viney would walk into that Lions/eagles midfield. Gawn is better. Brayshaw 2018 has something. Just out of interest i reckon Judd/Cousins>>Voss/Black what do you think? I would have Oliver/Viney close to par with the Brisbane pair.

This is a serious win to get it done so quickly, creates a vibe, not that I ever thought he was going. We would have to be top 4 for destination clubs (Sydney/Geelong/Richmond) if you removed the go home/state factor and just focused on culture/prospects of team success. Adelaide people jump ship pretty regularly, WCE doesn't seem to do particularly well nor Collingwood. Hawthorn has been the benchmark for awhile but their stock price has slipped i reckon.

i don't think i was clear enough about Davey, he has a place in my heart. I just think BF could be special too, not sure of where he will go, excited at the potential. Didn't realize RR went through a regular draft. I still think we as a club have made good use. Westcoast obviously did well out of Priddis.

How did they miss getting drafted... James McDonald Aaron Davey, Robbo, Mark Jamar, (all Australian) Darren Jolly. (Obviously being a premiership ruckman says success.) Bailey Frisch, Tim Smith, (+someone help) Who of these, who have played for Melbourne, was the biggest coup outside of the regular draft/from the rookie list? We have had some players that recruiters would have been gnashing their teeth they missed. Bailey would be early 2nd round the way he is playing at the moment. If Bailey keeps tracking like this he will give Davey a run for his money (IMHO), (he's not there yet, Davey invented the defensive forward) but Bailey, could he match James even?

You were right, leave him alone, will not engage on a rational level, and has not cited one piece of of personal experience, is an evidence free argument. I would love to know where he lived, would give some money to the closest Islamic community towards building/maintaining a mosque there.

I don't agree with much of this bloke, but I agreed with how described the implementation of theocracies as 'an extreme version of Sharia' so he obviously gets that there are different versions of Islam. No one on hear is arguing for the taliban or republican guard as an example of liberty. He also quotes Iran 1971, pity he didn't have the grace to acknowledge that the yanks and brits fostered one of the nastier theocracies by getting rid of a democratic government https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/cia-admits-role-1953-iranian-coup installing a Shah who was an evil SOB, thus generating much resentment which gets us to today, with the Iranian government fostering all sorts of nastiness. So often you can draw a line from western meddling to the extreme versions of Islam in Somalia - (Shabaab), Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood), and Iran (Republican Guards).

Good enough that I don't care where our team plays, Optus, Adelaide, Geelong, Gabba, these used to be abattoirs for us. We still get beaten, but at least it's not because of the wallpaper in the change rooms.

Very good, no real quibble, just having some fun too, trying for one word. a w@^k of dons got censored, sorry, thought it was a good play on words from Dank, will have to settle for a pajero of dons.

agreed, but if we continue this big run of wins, people are going to forget the early games and just look at why we have dominated-he is part of that. I thought he had an oxygen tank today? is there somewhere you can see his GPS stats, he seemed to be covering a fair bit of the park they way he kept pushing up.

Have to agree with the idea of dropping him back as the loose intercept defender while Lever is injured, his marking judgement is sublime. He reminds a little of Rioli, not getting huge possessions, but every one of them damaging. I think he does have the skinny flower bravery thing, looks like he should get smashed off the ball... but doesn't. Left field comment, but he has that balance thing you see in basketballers like a steph curry (obviously not on a par with Steph...yet) when he steps back for a 3pt, just seems to have all the time in the world.

Jetta has to be in the conversation, he is the defensive wizard, I'm prepared to call him Gandalf, the way he wins unwinnable contests, time and again, 'you shall not pass', he just never gives up

It is not only Clarry, I also think Jones suffers for votes being taken for granted, his composure around the ball, I swear my back gets a bit straighter when he picks it up but haven't put him in votes for ages.

6.Jetta 5.Hogan 4.Oliver 3.Tmac 2.Fritsch 1.Lewis

You are right game is in the bag - could have been another 6 goals up with all the asy misses, thank god for these two.

On Fox they were calling Ray out for his conduct the way he speaks to players

Aaaaargh Dogs are still running, is not over.