John Crow Batty

Given our poor strike rate with first round picks, I think the deal is good assuming Lever lives up to his expected form and influence. “A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush”. That proverb have never been more apt for our situation.

Caro agrees with you http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/adelaides-dummy-spit-over-jake-lever-is-not-a-good-look-nor-is-his-departure-20171009-gyxg1u.html

Adelaide are not too happy. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/adelaides-jake-lever-officially-requests-trade-to-victorian-club-20171003-gytemt.html

A good friend of mine got burned financially by the "Big H" on matters unrelated to this. Good media operator and a bit of a personality but one not to get involved in business with. Problem with him was that he believed his own hype and really thought he was the "Big H" in real life also.

He has a wicked boot from long range. Rarely misses.

And if we win it will take us to 11 wins and our best win result since 2006.

A persistent problem for the last decade has been poor kicking skills. Hibberd and Melksham have made a huge difference in improving that.

I think its great that all grounds are slightly different. Or else it would be like drop in pitchs in cricket. Will get boring if every ground and game is the same.

As I recall Rance also copped a lot of criticism early in his career.

Asking for a lot there given the feisty forwards we have now. The request has been made adnauseum for a long time.

Nothing like a good spread topped off by a fiver.

Speaking of forwards when was the last time one of ours kicked five or more? I know Hogan had a few big bags but that's a while ago now.

Does it make any difference? We can't win at the MCG anyway.

Well you have to wait for lunch. If peckish, one could eat the skin also. Add a dash of salt and cut up with knife and fork into neat strips.

This is our kind of airline. Forget about China Southern. http://www.traveller.com.au/plane-passenger-orders-special-gluten-free-meal-on-ana-flight-and-is-given-a-banana-gw3gsq

I hope the crows play like they are stoned.

Two Grimes and a half dozen Lamumba's do not equal a Hibberd.

I remember watching him play in his Essendon days. He was the defender who stood out the most other than Hurley. His kicking was amongst the best in the AFL. Glad he still has the touch. Surprised Essendon let him go so easily.

Hird and the Colombian connection. http://www.theage.com.au/sport/reclusive-james-hird-spruiks-his-cacao-hunters-australia-chocolate-on-gay-and-lesbian-radio-20170422-gvq91b.html

Thompson must know a lot what has happened at his club and at other clubs as well. Same as Dank, Hird etc. A lot of this has to do with being caught whilst others have gotten away with it. They are mightily [censored] off that they may be the scapegoated and made examples of. Problem is they can't say more without incriminating themselves and perhaps other clubs (Geelong, GC?) and paying a much higher price be it admitting a crime, being sued and further trashing their dodgy reputations. Thompson also has a couple of flags to protect.

It's just amazing, Dank, Hird, Thompson and others all know the truth and want it out but just can't seem to articulate it. It must be a terrible burden the verbal paralysis holding it all in against their will.

The year we got Watts we also missed some great opportunities further down. We dudded with Bleese, Strauss and Bennell. We could have had Ballantyne, Shuey, D Beames, Sloane, M Walters, Zaharakis and Hannebery and a stack of other current good players. All these players came after Strauss and Bleese. We did get lucky with Jetta at pick 51.

Those match ups 1-5 make me wince. Watts and NicNat would be at least a draw. The others 100 point thrashings.

This thread is getting woefully off track. Time to pass this debate over to the St Kilda supporters forum. They still have a lot hand wringing to do.