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No-one is claiming he's gonna save the club though, are they? It's about having the biggest personality in footy encouraging some support for the cause, after losing a major sponsor through what he described as "no fault of their own". Anyway after all this Ed defense I need to go shower.

Precisely. I understand the distaste but I'm not sure we have the luxury of turning it down cold.

I'd never accept a handout directly from Eddie. I will however accept him using any influence he might have to assist in fixing the sponsorship mess, and it is an absolute mess. I don't buy into the barking at shadows stuff.

The fact even Ed wants to helps says alot about the predicament we're in. I watched it and am conflicted. On the one hand I feel a bit dirty having the Collingwood President pass the hat around on our behalf. On the other hand his connections in media and the corporate world are invaluable. Some of it is posturing and ego no doubt, and his track record isn't great when it comes to looking out for the well-being of other clubs, but I do think he believes in the importance of the MFC for the competition. If it results in getting a couple of big new sponsors on board, I don't really give a rat's.

Swedish Chef - Good at the 1 percenters. Ability to create something out of nothing. Animal - A bit of grunt up forward. Can really crash the packs. Statler and Waldorf - Will fill the senior leadership void. Rizzo the Rat - The MFC's answer to Stephen Milne.

I'd be surprised and disappointed if this were the case. He deserves scrutiny.

We also need to kick the red oval thing to other people wearing the same colour jumper.

You mean easier. I'm as much of a culprit as anyone, but at the end of the day you dust yourself off and prepare for next week. Which is winnable.

Can we just not play Bail in the forward pocket?? Any impact he can have on the game in terms of run out of the back half is going to waste. I'd have no qualms making wholesale changes. Tappy is a given, who along with Morton should hopefully clean up our disposal a bit. Hopefully. Moloney, Couch, Martin and Strauss the others to come in. Hesitant on Blease. He looks continually disinterested and needs to really prove himself in the seconds before getting another shot. Bennell, Joel Mac and Dunn would be the first 3 to go for mine. I have a feeling Green will step up against the Tiges. I refuse to believe he has slipped as far as that game would suggest. We're only 2 weeks in at the end of the day. Likewise I can't see Jamar playing any worse than he has the first couple of games.

From the bits I saw, $cully was rubbish. Might be able to run all day but not that useful when you can't kick. It actually did help a bit. Gotta take what you can get from this weekend.

We've become unwatchable. A VFL side masquerading as an AFL team. Much more of this garbage and the club is rooted. Next draft is the most important in the club's history.

To be fair the umps are giving them a dream run.

Green's tackling is an embarrassment, and these long bombs in hope to outnumbered forwards are going to be the death of me.

I'l never be ashamed of this club. We have enough people from the outside trying to sink the boot in. I'll express my disdain for the way certain things transpire but I'll get over it within 24 hours because the sun always rises tomorrow and this club surives on support from people like demonlanders.

Nude run down the street good.

Not sure how this would work from a pragmatic or legal point of view, or how it would work ongoing? Who takes ownership of this "sponsorship" form the supporter side? Doesn't donating money/buying additional memberships to the club achieve exactly the same aim for all intents and purposes? Surely the club would be better served in seeking out external corporate sponsorship as to an extent, money from the supporters will always be there. Don't mean to be a naysayer and I like the thought behind it, just not sure how practical it is.

Are we on candid camera?

In all honesty I won't be paying attention to the scroeboard. I just want to see some resolve and no dropping of heads when it gets tough....so halfway through the first quarter.

I liked the way he gave that tossbag at the presser who kept asking about the source of the leak, the exact amount of respect he deserved. The guy is a genuine hardarse. Much welcomed.

A 5 goal loss would be extraordinary. i'm tipping something around 80 points. West Coast will show us zero mercy.

People care a great deal. It is old news and was discussed in another thread.

Sorry but I'm not copping this. There was a categorical lack of effort from several players, Moloney being one. Nothing to do with learning a gameplan when it's the fundamentals - chasing, tackling, second efforts. It's not excusable.

Pretty much yeah.

If he produces the same pissweak effort this week, put a fork in him. I personally didn't agree with him being cast out of the leadership group but he needs to build a bridge. The club needs him now more than ever before.

Can't drop Blease. He had a bad game but he alot of friends on Saturday. The kid has natural talent to burn. Play him off HB and see how he goes.