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The reality is we never had a chance to get Flanders, that deal was put in place months ago. The other reality is that the Flanders camp roped us in to give the illusion that there were other suitors, and so push up his asking price.

Just laughable. Once Lamb delivered the picks to the club, the choice of picks is on Taylor and the scouts/drafting team. The level of outright - and in many cases deliberate - BS on this site at the moment is just through the roof.

I.e., same as Petracca.

i.e., break his contract. Not difficult.

Sure. Have you visited the Bailey Humphries thread? 85 pages of posters arguing the opposite, the basic premise being that Humphries can and should break his contract and come to us.

What Christian does or doesn’t do isn’t the point. It’s the negative impact that having someone who has asked to leave has on the other players. He doesn’t exactly bleed red and blue, and you get more of a sense of commitment, leadership and responsibility from Mihocek, who hasn’t even played a game. Mihocek isn’t just trotting out platitudes like “it’s my job”, he’s putting himself on the line. But academic, Trac’s gone and the deal will be the best that we can manage under the circumstances, many of which are not in our favour.

As has been pointed out by numerous posters, no we didn’t. Getting tiresome now.

A 30 year old on huge coin that no one except the Suns want to touch, that Petracca?

The Pies traded a 28 year old 2 x All Australian and B&F winner for … pick 27.

No we didn't.

Yes we do. He doesn't want to be at the Dees, he's asked for a trade and nominated a club, and we want his enormous salary off our books.

Like Geelong you mean? The Geelong who have an ex-defender as their forwards coach? How people can continue to insist that assistant coaches should only coach the position they played is mind-boggling.

If the Suns lose 7 & 8 for Petracca, they'll need picks. Though that's not the point. If Humphrey wants out and then nominates the Hawks, the Suns and Hawks will have to thrash out a deal. Which will be picks.

Johnson is a Key Forward who can pinch hit in the ruck. Campbell and Heath are both out and out rucks.

The one incentive is that he's making it pretty clear that he wants to come home at some point. Do they squeeze a couple of years of potentially great footy out of him and then trade him with a weaker hand when he's OOC, or do they bite the bullet now? (Still think it's very unlikely myself, but worth throwing the kitchen sink at.)

Surely, depends on who you pick? Langford certainly made a difference, and Lindsay could have as well with a full pre-season. Also, there's the presumption that if we get 7 & 8, we use them. But another possibility is that we somehow use one/both of those picks to push even further up the draft. Or for a late trade for ... god knows who.

I'm not sure why people are assuming that "come back to Victoria" means "come to Melbourne FC". Hawthorn are in this and are going hard - and would be an attractive proposition to Humphrey given where they're at.

Whatever happens, we are not replacing a superstar here.

Interested in Rory Atkins as a development coach apparently. Per Tom Morris.

Has to play a part in this, though I would imagine there's a way of leaving them with enough points.

It wasn't for you, and yes, your ears aren't letting you down!

"The overall philosophy will be to try and improve our list ... We'll look at every avenue we can, whether that be free agency, trade and then obviously that flows into the draft."

He hasn't said "we have no interest in this draft" either. He's said that the draft is compromised by father son/academy picks. Unlike Oliver, Lamb and co. pick their words very very carefully, and they're not saying anything that might come back and bite them. Edit: See Youngblood's post above.

Why do people keep saying this? We've never said that. Head scratcher.

Agreed, but "good" is doing a lot of work there.