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For mine, not quite. As much as anything, that St Kilda loss was as much as anything down to a lack of on-field leadership and smarts. Yet we still have the same 2 warriors as leaders. Understand that they don't grow on trees, and bringing in Steele and Mihoceck is in part a recognition of the situation, but still ...

Jesus.

No it's not. The fact that we let go 3 of our big name players, including 2 that we're having to pay out, plus changing our CEO and President, plus restructuring the FD/Board relationship with a new senior post, would strongly suggest that the issues went a lot deeper than just Goodwin - or any individual for that matter.

I think you'll find he said he'd been working on his set shots.

Oliver wasn't BOG. Good game, not taking that away from him, but nothing all that dissimilar to what we were seeing last year. Petracca on the other hand ...

Those decisions were made (long) before King arrived.

Great the players we've brought in and great to see the young players developing ... but we ain't replacing that in a hurry.

And people wonder why there was no Melbourne dynasty.

Goodwin was always stuck between a rock and a hard place. I agree with you that he was probably onboard with the moves to shop Clarry around. But he could never admit to that publicly or even privately as it would have destroyed his relationship with Oliver in the eventuality that he ended up staying.

Fixed it for you .... Decisions were made before King arrived. Richardson, Green, Smith, Guerra, perhaps others on the board and in the FD. It was never just about Goodwin.

Everyone's doing it, sink or swim. Going to catch out a few old-guard coaches/teams.

Grundy (who was out the door by then) refused to play as emergency.

National Recruiting Manager: Jason Taylor

Which is what all these changes were about.

Sure - but Flanders, Ryan and Silvagni will. In the practice matches Ryan in particular looked handy, especially in partnership with NWM. Against that they've lost Steele, though for them he was surplus to requirements.

This in a nutshell. At least someone gets it.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2026/03/02/afl-2026-sam-edmund-latest-tim-lamb-dees-list-boss-knocks-back-adelaide

Great news. Tim Lamb doing what Tim Lamb does.

It depends what you're referring to - Lamb is in charge of list management (contracts, salaries), but he's not solely responsible for bringing players in post-draft. There's a List Management Committee for a reason. If Lamb was "in charge" that committee wouldn't exist. Coach and head of football (Richardson) also have a say in bringing players in, which is why they're also on the list management committee. Also, once again, Taylor isn't Head of Drafting, he's the National Recruiting Manager. It's a broader role than what some are suggesting here, as it should be. He's the one who would have been following players from their under-age years, meeting with them (and their parents) etc. etc. and he would be across the backgrounds and strengths/weaknesses of most players in the AFL, at least those who have come through the under-age system. Recruiting, trading etc - it's not just a one-man show, and that goes for Taylor as well.

For anyone really interested, this provides good background, also history, especially on the division between recruiting and list management. "AFL clubs today put four men in a room to deal with list management. There is the list manager, the recruiting manager, the senior coach and the football chief." When list manager is the AFL’s most important job - News...With the state heading to the polls on March 21, voters can choose from more ways to cast their ballot than ever before.

No he's not.

Which is exactly what you're doing. Lamb does NOT choose which players we take via pre-season and trade. There's a list management committee which does that, and the recruiting manager - for all recruits, including trades etc is Jason Taylor. Lamb's job is exactly what it says on the tin, primarily contracts, salaries, salary cap. He's the one who has player agents on speed dial. He manages the list, he doesn't choose the list. If you want to [censored] about bringing in Grundy, then look elsewhere. If you want to [censored] about Grundy's contract, Tim's your man.

Interesting little revelation on On The Couch tonight from Buckley that when he was interviewing for the Melbourne coach position, the candidates were told that there would be personnel changes. He noted that everything that Melbourne said would happen has happened. May, Oliver, Petracca were on their way before King arrived, even if they didn't know it at that stage.

Yet in spite of all that we’re still under the salary cap, we’ve still managed to attract decent players to the club and pay them, we’ve still managed to re-sign players that easily could have gone elsewhere (Kozzie Pickett, come on down), and we’ve still managed to keep required players (except cough Judd cough McVee). Your argument is one FOR Lamb, not against him, because in spite of having his hands tied by those payouts, he’s still building and maintaining the list.

By the start of next pre-season, Simon Goodwin will be an AFL head coach.