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Giving him too much credit. Initiatives like this aren't put in place overnight.

Landing the club with $500K in unnecessary costs is a bit more than "stepping out of line".

Not always on Demonland.

Including managing the other coaches. Worth digging out the interview that Burgess gave when he left late 2021, where there are real insights into Goodwin's capabilities in that regard.

Seems pretty clear: "Green said he would lead a review of the Board aimed at resetting and refreshing its performance"

Except I didn't say that did I. A predictable response, also a massive red herring which doesn't even attempt to refute the points I made in response to yours re Petracca.

Hunter was a smart pickup - allowed us to move Brayshaw on-ball and he was more than handy in his first season. Combination of the arrival of Windsor, injury and age haven't helped him this year, but it wasn't the worst trade by a long shot.

If he just wanted out he would have gone to North or Richmond. You're giving someone who by his own admission is struggling with his mental health and trauma a lot more credibility than he deserves. The fact that he blames the club in some way for ANB leaving shows just where he's at at the moment.

You're confusing correlation with causation. The only facts are that a few players have gone off the rails/had incidents. That's it.

And adds to it. Congratulations. Really happy for him, hasn't always been easy.

I posted it with exclamation marks. Perhaps too subtle. But the one point in it that was interesting and perhaps more credible was that Collingwood were interested in him last year when he re-signed. That he did reconfirm to us says something about both him and the club, we sometimes take these re-signings for granted.

Just re Spargo, I'd be surprised. The fact that he was the one chosen to take Melksham's place as kind of "player liaison" on the gameday bench says something about how the club and players see him. He must be doing something right.

I take the reference to a drop in standards with a grain of salt, especially when it comes from Trac. That he could cite ANB leaving as evidence of the club's failings says a lot as to where he's currently at. Understandably perhaps given the trauma etc., but still. (Whether or not we shouldn't be looking at how we can improve right across the board is a separate discussion.)

I don't think anyone's taking it as gospel, and the fact that even the bigger names haven't dropped something similar speaks volumes as to how credible it is.

Selwyn is more than competent. We need to stop looking for "gurus" as some kind of miracle workers. Burgess has run fitness departments for plenty of teams who haven't even made the 8 - including us. Not doubting his capability, but he's just one factor amongst many.

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"Petracca drove this exit plan himself. He was not put up to it by his management firm, Connors Sports Management. In 2021 he and that company ecstatically reached a deal with the Demons through to the end of 2029. In mid-2024, he asked his representatives to explore the market on his behalf. Robbie D’Orazio and Paul Connors can publicly explain their involvement in the Petracca saga if they so wish, but history suggests that when their firm is involved in a trade request from one of its players from a ground-zero beginning, it gets it done. It negotiated the passage of one of the all-time greats in Chris Judd, from West Coast to Carlton, in 2007, without fuss. In contrast to Petracca, Judd never sought to publicly embarrass the club he was seeking to leave. The statement released by Melbourne on Saturday night officially committing to a future with Petracca was a convenient, timely end to a farcical saga. But it is almost certainly merely a temporary halt. The fraying of Petracca-Demons relationships since King’s Birthday simply may not be able to be repaired. Fixture in a resumption of the Petracca trade talk same time next year."

I'm surprised there hasn't been more emphasis on KPD. May and McDonald into their last season or two, Jed Adams on a long contract but is yet to really show anything. The cupboard is bare, especially after we've swung Turner and Petty forward.

23 games this year for 42 goals.

If our culture is as strong as Pert, Gawn and Goodwin say (...), then we definitely should look at him. He kicked more goals than anyone on our list and would be a good foil for the younger players coming through. On the other hand, Fritsch + Stringer, perhaps only room for one of them?

“But there’s been an immaturity, in my eyes, a significant immaturity attached to his dealings in the past two weeks at least, and maybe even a whole lot longer.” “I think he’s gone rogue on the whole thing, and his teammates think he’s gone rogue to a certain point,” Barrett added.

Woah. Who were the 10 quality players who moved last year? Grundy, maybe Lachie Schultz and then ... Jack Ginnivan? Mabior Chol? Ratugolea? Paddy Dow? After a couple of marquee first rounders, often due to the go-home factor, it's pretty slim pickings and I don't see any of these players making a real change to a club or a list.

Better yet, they could start putting up cooking videos.

This idea that there is a pool of "talent" out there just waiting to change clubs is a myth. The vast majority of players who change clubs are delisted players or fringe/OOC/free agents. Sometimes those players prove their worth at their new clubs, but it's the exception rather than the rule. Even there, it often boils down to the list and the roles available. The issue we're going to have is that in spite of all the doom and gloom, we have most positions covered and no-one is going to change clubs just to get in the queue. Perhaps mids, with Petracca moving forward/fitness unknown, also as a replacement for Brayshaw. But ... suspect that our priority will be a) getting the players we do have fit and b) the draft.

It may have been a mistake in terms of on field performance, but it wan't a mistake in terms of managing and supporting Oliver. With ADHD, he needs the routine and responsibilities of week-to-week games and of being part of the playing group. All of his issues surfaced when he was stuck alone in rehab for 8 weeks last year. At his best, Oliver is one of the very best players in the AFL and in working to keep him in the fold and healthy the club made the right decision.