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Yes, and Cameron was a free agent, 3 years younger than Trac, and on quite a bit less coin. In any case, what Geelong paid (13, 15, 20), is worth less than 7 & 8, if that's what's on the table.

Was widely reported in the media back in June that Flanders was looking to move, and the only club mentioned in those reports was St Kilda. Someone knew.

Yes, fair enough. Not sure about "plenty", certainly doesn't feel like that, but accept your point.

If you look at what was actually said, rather than what you wanted to be said, Lamb and co have been very general in their statements. Even the "turn our heads" is vague as all hell - and allows every single person to have a different interpretation, which is the point.

And the reason he got Grundy for peanuts was because of the monster coin he was on, though even there, we didn't take on all of that contract. Yet everyone here expects the earth for Trac while at the same time expecting GC to take on ALL of Trac's payments. The size of Trac's salary, one of the highest in the AFL and way above what anyone currently at the Suns is reported to be getting, is the biggest single factor in all this. But like the proverbial elephant in the room, it's being totally ignored on Demonland.

As has already been pointed out to you, neither Lamb nor anyone from the club stated that.

The reality is we never had a chance to get Flanders, that deal was put in place months ago. The other reality is that the Flanders camp roped us in to give the illusion that there were other suitors, and so push up his asking price.

Just laughable. Once Lamb delivered the picks to the club, the choice of picks is on Taylor and the scouts/drafting team. The level of outright - and in many cases deliberate - BS on this site at the moment is just through the roof.

I.e., same as Petracca.

i.e., break his contract. Not difficult.

Sure. Have you visited the Bailey Humphries thread? 85 pages of posters arguing the opposite, the basic premise being that Humphries can and should break his contract and come to us.

What Christian does or doesn’t do isn’t the point. It’s the negative impact that having someone who has asked to leave has on the other players. He doesn’t exactly bleed red and blue, and you get more of a sense of commitment, leadership and responsibility from Mihocek, who hasn’t even played a game. Mihocek isn’t just trotting out platitudes like “it’s my job”, he’s putting himself on the line. But academic, Trac’s gone and the deal will be the best that we can manage under the circumstances, many of which are not in our favour.

As has been pointed out by numerous posters, no we didn’t. Getting tiresome now.

A 30 year old on huge coin that no one except the Suns want to touch, that Petracca?

The Pies traded a 28 year old 2 x All Australian and B&F winner for … pick 27.

No we didn't.

Yes we do. He doesn't want to be at the Dees, he's asked for a trade and nominated a club, and we want his enormous salary off our books.

Like Geelong you mean? The Geelong who have an ex-defender as their forwards coach? How people can continue to insist that assistant coaches should only coach the position they played is mind-boggling.

If the Suns lose 7 & 8 for Petracca, they'll need picks. Though that's not the point. If Humphrey wants out and then nominates the Hawks, the Suns and Hawks will have to thrash out a deal. Which will be picks.

Johnson is a Key Forward who can pinch hit in the ruck. Campbell and Heath are both out and out rucks.

The one incentive is that he's making it pretty clear that he wants to come home at some point. Do they squeeze a couple of years of potentially great footy out of him and then trade him with a weaker hand when he's OOC, or do they bite the bullet now? (Still think it's very unlikely myself, but worth throwing the kitchen sink at.)

Surely, depends on who you pick? Langford certainly made a difference, and Lindsay could have as well with a full pre-season. Also, there's the presumption that if we get 7 & 8, we use them. But another possibility is that we somehow use one/both of those picks to push even further up the draft. Or for a late trade for ... god knows who.

I'm not sure why people are assuming that "come back to Victoria" means "come to Melbourne FC". Hawthorn are in this and are going hard - and would be an attractive proposition to Humphrey given where they're at.

Whatever happens, we are not replacing a superstar here.

Interested in Rory Atkins as a development coach apparently. Per Tom Morris.