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He's been playing alongside Sicily ...

Sure, but these are still kids, and there's a lot of water to go under the bridge. Lachie Neale was taken pick 58. Even in a weak draft there will be 200 gamers.

Not necessarily. Even when you do all you need to, things don't always work out. Just the way it is. People.

And we tried to move Steven May.

I suspect that this goes a lot further than King, and follows on from the Goodwin sacking. Richardson and others would know exactly what has been happening, and are trying to give King a clean slate. OK, we pay the price, but so be it. Reminds me somewhat of the Jack Watts trade with Goodwin coming in. Pick 31.

Then direct your fury at Oliver. He brought this on himself and unfortunately, the club. While the situation behind it isn't the same, it's not really different to the JUH trade - pick 79 for a player who was taken at pick 1. Or look at the Hogan trades in/out of Fremantle. They paid a king's ransom and sold him for pick 54 two years later. etc. etc. Good luck to Clayton, but clearly the situation had become untenable. We'll probably never know the real reasons.

Lots of moving parts in this, but appears to be about the equivalent of Pick 1 or 2 to us.

Exactly the kind of player we need to have around the likes of Tholstrup.

You've got to give something to get something, just the way it is. He wasn't coming unless he got something on top of what he already had.

Says a lot about what King and the club are looking to do and where they see weaknesses. Yes, game style, more attack etc. etc., but we badly need leadership and maturity both onfield and off, especially after losing ANB and Gus. Will help steady the ship.

No he didn’t. And you need to look at the whole quote. “Ultimately, it’s up to Christian and his team now to come forward with a deal that would satisfy us. It’s got to turn our head.” Paul Guerra Are we satisfied? Oh yes we are.

Trac shafting the club on the way out. His manager/advisors haven’t exactly covered themselves with glory here either.

We do NOT have any leverage here. We lost it once Trac burnt his bridges with the club. For all his culinary skills, he can not unmake this omelette and walk back in. Once Trac very publicly nominated GC there was no way back and the Suns know it. Kudos to Lamb for pushing through to the end on BH and/or getting those two first-rounders, but he’s on a hiding to nothing.

Any chance that discussion of the Christian Petracca trade could be carried out on the Christian Petracca thread? Perhaps just me.

Take it and run. 7 & 8 (plus swapsies) for a 30 year old with his best years behind him and on $1.3 million which GC are prepared to pick up! They must be desperate, though equally, you see why they would do it. Marquee player, flag window, yadda yadda. None of the Vic clubs would even look at a deal like this for Trac, and surprise surprise, they didn't.

I don't believe that there's any confirmation anywhere that this is the amount (i.e., Clarry on $1.4 million). As I posted above, the AFL site gave his contract as 7 million over 7 years.

Breakdown between player and club.

Well, ball-park. Bit of a difference between $1 mill and $1.3 mill.

Do any of us know what he's really on? There are reports from the time he signed that he's on $1.05 million. The AFL reported a 7-year contract worth $7 million.

Jesse Hogan. Traded to Fremantle for picks 6 and 23. Two years later, traded out of Fremantle for pick 54. JUH. Pick #1 to the Bulldogs in 2020. 5 years later, traded out for ... nothing (?), with the Dogs having to pay his full salary for 2025 even though he didn't play a game or train with the club (effectively). etc. There's always a price to be paid for cutting your losses.

These negotiations don’t happen in a vacuum. All sides know the full story even before discussions begin, and the idea circulating on Demonland that we’d be in a different position if we’d played our cards closer to our chest is simply fanciful. The fact that the Giants were able to arrange a meeting in another state with Clarry, along with various club officials and players, the very next day after the MFC meeting suggests that this had been in the air for some time beforehand and that the Giants already had their ducks in a row.

No-one from the club said that, in fact, quite the reverse. If anyone blew this up it was Clayton himself - that interview from the moving van would have done nothing to enhance his value. But in any case, unless I'm misunderstanding, the premise of what you're saying is that we could have somehow hidden that we wanted him gone. In reality, all clubs know everything about what's going on internally at other clubs, and if they don't, the player managers make sure they do. On Clayton Oliver "We met with Clayton and spoke about the future, how that looked, how the coach wanted the midfield to play and where Clayton fitted in with all of that,” Lamb said. “Out of that has come that he wanted to explore some options, but it wasn't a direction from us to do that." Tim Lamb

Pick 11 plus a future first that could easily end up a lot lower than that. In terms of equivalence, it's a lot less than what we're getting for Trac.

Implementing the decisions of the club and the List Management Committee.