a couple of things that should go undisputed
-to win a flag you need AT LEAST 4-5 true 'star' players, that is players who are all-australian or close to it.
-in addition to this you need about 20 decent players so that, allowing for a few injuries, you never take the field with any complete spuds in the side
for different reasons, Jurrah, Scully, Morton and Grimes aren't going to deliver for this club so we find that apart from Watts and Trengove we have nobody that can become 'stars' and i'd struggle to get to 10 that you could call 'decent'
we're stuffed