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I’m surprised there’s not more love for Hibbins-Hargreaves, yeah he’s got a lot to work on but he has pure class. Good size, looks a good athlete, clean hands and makes really good decisions. Obviously needs a thorough medical and will need to have his defensive game coached up but profiles as a modern midfielder who excels in transition.

Nah. First round will go probably at least until 27. 23 picks currently and likely 5+ bids with only a couple of first round picks at most consumed by bids. (Brisbane, GC, Carlton will all make further trade backs sometime before their bids are matched) It’s the 12th pick of round 2, which would make it 39, at least 2 more bids push it back to 41, but then another Brisbane pick, a few more GC picks, a Carlton and a Sydney pick get sucked out of the 2nd round. Will be 35-40.

No points after 54, but under the old system every bid after 18 got pick 18’s discount. That would be 10% of 836 now which is 84 points, which makes every bid after 50 cost no points. Not sure if they’ve changed that or kept it as is. If that’s the case we’ve only got an issue between whatever 37 becomes and 49

He’s not showing up in any top 40’s, neither is Sinnema (if we want him). Makes me think rookie list for both. Not entirely sure how matching for late picks works with the new discount and points index but 66 and 71 should do the job if they’re picked in the main draft post 40.

FB: Howes*** Adams Petty/Lever HB: CJ Turner Bowey C: Lindsay Rivers Windsor HF: Langdon Mihocek Chandler FF: Fritsch JVR Henderson*** Foll: Gawn Langford Pickett Int: Salem, Viney, Steele, Kolt, Jeffo/Kentfield It’s time to move past Melk, T Mc and May unless we have injuries. Start Adams as a lock down key back and support him. Every mid has to have 2 roles. Riv and Lindsay back. Pickett and Viney forward. Steele wing. Windsor on ball. Langford wing and forward. ***Howes is a placeholder until we get someone better but 5 backs who can all contribute overhead is vital to the zone. ***Henderson another placeholder but we need to have those waves of half forwards.

If Taj is to stay it may as well be as a rookie to save the cap space. If we took 4 National draft picks Taj and someone else (Campbell, Laurie, Melk) would get the drop down.

I’m not an expert but purely by the way the regular draft guys like Twomey talk about players before they were drafted if you were breaking the draft in to tiers and excluding academy/father son I’d say: S tier (Daicos, JHF, Harley Reid): 0 players A+ grade tier (Sheezel, McCluggage, Anderson, Jackson, Langford): At most 2 players - Duursma, CDT, it might be a reach to even put them in this batch. A tier: (Serong, Flanders, Sanders, Ginbey, Caldwell, Lindsay) at most 3 players - Robey, X Taylor, Sharp B+ tier: maybe 8-10 different players but very light on for talls or sure thing mids. It’s mostly flankers who can progress to midfield or star in their role.

Yes you can. We did it with Lachie Hunter. Essendon did it with James Stewart not long ago. If you do it before the final list lodgement the money goes into the 2025 cap. Do it after the list lodgements and the player goes on the inactive list. Although I believe most of these have been retirements or agreed upon by the player involved. I can’t imagine we’d do either tho. Give everyone a fair chance under the new coach at least until the end of preseason if not mid year.

I don’t think CJ is best used deep, he’s an attacking intercept defender who covers ground. But it’s an option. Dovaston is such a nice fit. We shouldn’t be drafting for need at this stage but if he is best available he’d slot right in.

FB: ???? Adams Petty-Lever HB: CJ Turner Bowey C; Lindsay Rivers Windsor HF: Chandler Mihocek Langdon FF: Fritsch JVR ?????? Foll: Gawn Pickett Langford Int: Salem, Steele, Viney, Kolt, Jeffo-Kentfield Backline: May, McDonald, the leftover from Petty-Lever, Howes, AMW Midfield: Culley, Laurie, Sparrow Rucks: Campbell, Heath Forward: the lesser of Jeffo-Kent, Melksham, AJ, McAdam, Henderson, Sharp, Mentha Would love a back pocket. Not sure Howes or AMW are the answer. CJ is better roaming up the ground. Someone who can contribute right away would really help. A small/medium with tackling and some energy.

Ahhh 3 year deal. He gets the Lamb special. Would be nice to have players join us because they see the opportunity to build something - especially when their current club have told them to pack up and go - without having to pay the extra year for once.

The smart move with 8 is to trade it with Carlton for 9 and a 2027 second and a promise of no bid on Dean at 7. Trading up for sure fire elite talent, all for it if we can, but not sure it exists outside maybe Duursma and very maybe Robey.

We’re in a competition with Brisbane, Gold Coast, the other clubs that get early academy or father son picks. So when they get picks before us it absolutely matters. It pushes us down the line of talent. Even if our pick stayed at 7 and 8 unfortunately it’s not a great group. There’s not a quality crop of mids and talls. It’s mostly flankers.

10 out. 6 in: Culley, Henderson, Mihocek, Heath, CJ, Steele 4 spots open and Woey. 3 picks: 7, 8, 37 2 rookies: White and Sinnema?

He's just a baby. Viney got 4 at that age. Why even stop at 3. Let's give him the Tim Lamb special cutlet

Apparently yes

Helped that he only had 1 year left on the deal. Whatever he's lost for 2026 he has a chance to make up and more over the next decade.

Cool story, but that's not how a contract works. We signed it, he has every right to that money unless we found a way to sack him

Of course, but you can't terminate someone's contract for stuff that doesn't even get out in the public. Plenty of questionable stuff going on in 2023, but same thing applies. For all the talk on here about how much we leak, seems we didn't leak enough!

Good news - 3 firsts. Bad news, it’s a bit like Jezza Cameron for Conor Stone, Ryan Angwin and Brayden Cook. JT has to work some magic!!

Good news - 3 firsts. Bad news, it’s a bit like Jezza Cameron for Conor Stone, Ryan Angwin and Brayden Cook. JT - please work some magic!

Clarry’s major crime was going to the pokies and putting someone’s wind screen wipers up. Some other stuff too but since the start of the ‘24 season he hasn’t made a single public error. Jamarra, well….google it I guess. At the end of the day there’s nothing in contracts about not being at your best. The Hawks had Chad Wingard unfit and playing Playstation all the time once he got his big contract. Even at GwS - Kelly, Coniglio, Haynes all played about half a good game between them in 4 years.

Aside from anything cultural the 5 years is the big factor with Oliver and the reason we aren’t getting anything for him even more than the money factor. The dees brains trust don’t like the risk of having him fully stinking up our cap for 28, 29, 30. Steele should be 2 years on less than moderate money, no ongoing downside after that. I do agree tho on taking our chances with a train on player. Probably won’t find a good mid but can find a wing or flanker and shuffle guys around.

Saints fans keep spruiking that all their senior players were heaving front loaded. Who knows if it’s true but could be. Either way we’d surely only pick up the amount that reflects his value as a guy who only got a game as he was captain last year.

Steele has a 2 year deal so we don’t get that flexibility for one year. Campbell, Melk, Laurie, May, McDonald, McAdam some of AMW, AJ, one of the young key forwards. Can already do next years delistings so list spaces aren’t a problem. Picks 7 and 8 are usually ready for the afl system. Not guys who need a lot of handholding to adapt to the basics. And our plan for the late list spots might be White and Sinnema who have spent time at the club and in academies. Mentha is the only real baby on the list as it is. He and Luker the only guys who haven’t played a game. I don’t think we should be worried about having too many developmental players on the list.