DeeSpencer

It's last disposal not last touch. Kicks and handballs. Makes it easier for the umps, keeps the game moving and punishes players who blindly bomb the ball to the boundary line. It will be fine

This is to punish the duckers. Peatling, JHF, Daicos, half of Hawthorn. If they keep trying to draw free kicks they run the risk of giving one away. Some players will be unfairly punished but mostly it should just be targeted at the players who stop playing moving by chasing free kicks. They aren't attempting to break the tackle, they're attempting to get a free. It bring it in line with guys who dive on the ball, fend, lead with the head or raise their arms.

Explain how you determine who the 3rd man is without nominating of having one very confused and bumped over main ruck?

There's still ruck nominations, it's just the umpire doesn't have to wait if both rucks are a mile away. There will always be a need for some form of nomination or designation for rucks whilst 3rd man up is (rightfully) banned.

That’s where I disagree and think we’ve gone wrong with Weideman and JVR picks. Strongly built pack crashers who haven’t been able to get any space in the air or on the ground at afl level. Ideally you want guys with some pack crashing but I want a quality athlete so when they come up against athletic defenders they’re at least on a level playing field, if not still maintain a small edge. I also see enough strong marking and leaping with a big jump and reach in his game. Not a lot of push and shove forward craft but junior footy doesn’t have that. What I also see is the ability and willingness to push, shove and use his hips when he’s in the ruck. Also when I say I like him I think as long as he works on his kicking and decision making he should have a decent afl career that’s closer to a Shannon Neale, Amartey, Mabior Chol level player than anything special like Thilthorpe. He’d probably be good value at about pick 20 in this draft and we’ll likely look elsewhere but I suspect we consider him.

I’m a fan of both Schubert (see above) and Mitch Marsh (who I think clubs are trying to talk down to steal him in the teens) but just through needs and weight of numbers we go 2 midfield type players. If King brings a more Geelong approach to our drafting I’d expect we consider most of the top prospects as some form of midfield option and aren’t too worried about who plays in the centre square early in their careers. Chances are we take a forward/mid (Robey, Sharp, Dovaston, Cumming, Phillipou) and balance it out with a back/mid (Farrow, either Taylor, Grlj, Lindsay, Barker)

Aidan Schubert will come in to calculations for that reason. 198cm and born in December so probably ends up 200+ and you can see he enjoys rucking. It will mean a glut with JVR, Jeffo and Kentfield but they’d be competing for 2 tall forward spots just as they probably are this year besides Mihocek.

Twombstone on Get Table Eagles; Duursma and maybe CDT or a mid. Richmond: bid like mad, CDT doesn’t get past them, mids and Taylor. Essendon: sit back and take the remaining out of Duursma, CDT, Taylor, Robey, Sharp, Cumming. Maybe Farrow Melbourne: Robey probably doesn’t get to here, midfielders, maybe Farrow, maybe Cumming, maybe Sharp. Have to consider X Taylor if available. Or do they go one mid and Schubert/Dovaston. Really not a lot of mail from Cal at this stage. Maybe a hint of suggesting Cumming and Farrow are towards the top 10 and not as high on Grlj.

Agreed, the ability to break lines and hit targets together is worth more than either on their own. Those players are gold. NWM a horrible kick?? He’s the best kick in the league. Sure he misses a few but he hits most including the difficult ones. For Brisbane it’s Zorko, Fletcher and whilst he’s more run, bomb it and hope it works out Wilmot. For Zorko especially it’s less about blistering runs but knowing he has a short burst of speed to take a handball receive coming forward. Tom Stewart is the main guy for Geelong but Guthrie does it well too. And when they want genuine run and carry they push Max Holmes to half back

Are we sure this isn’t overplayed? Langford played well for Richmond vfl last year but they took Lalor at 1 and were strongly linked to Smillie. Sinnema played a nice for Casey and there’s not even any indication he’ll be even rookied by us. A recruited might not put much stake in to a vfl coach being pleased with a young kid doing well

Demons trident/locker room speeches: I know there’s skepticism with US sports ideas. Fair enough too. But I love seeing the coaches fired up especially after a big win in the NFL. Why has footy not embraced that? We have cameras in rooms for players injured or half naked but clubs don’t show anything to their fans outside of the song and some generic interviews. Can we get the King fired up post game? We also have a defensive moment/trademark award, but it’s just a social post. Why not make an award for that or similar after a win that includes a presentation of a big Trident like the raptors have below with the cobra and chain. Remember Kynan Brown’s game saving tackle - get that man a red and blue trident!

Despite the less than enthusiastic response to this thread I’m back with some more ideas. Now we have a CEO who isn’t allergic to proactively and a new coach we might get some action. Metro Melbourne: If we do finally get some definitive progress on Caulfield at the AGM (Dec 16) then we should partner will Metro trains for an instructional video featuring some of our players (Gawn, Pickett, Langford?) for a marketing campaign of catching the train from Caulfield to the city and new routes to the MCG (Metro tunnel opening in December). We could then handball the footy over to some North players mid metro tunnel to finish the video on to Arden St. It’s a quick bit of easy sponsored content and could get us in the good books with the government too.

Farrell was the one I thought of. Lindsay is a bit more well rounded for the same age I think. Somewhere between a Farrell and a Mitch Duncan. I do think as he matures and gets more powerful he should add more range and penetration to his boot too. But I like he how weights his kicks, he has nice distance control.

You’re the fun at parties guy aren’t you

We need to draft for our new coach and the trends in the game but we don’t need to worry too much about list needs. We need everything!

I’d roll the dice on Farrow, Barker, Oskar Taylor or Mitch Marsh over Sharp.

I don’t think a guy who can’t get a game for the Saints (or even the better alternatives like Worpel level players that are often available) are what you need to bring to the fight against Neale, the Ashcroft’s, Dunkley, Newcombe, Rowell, Tom Green, Serong etc. That said, is Sharp on that level? I don’t really see it. Hands don’t look clean enough and he doesn’t play through contact like a Green and Rowell

Carlton's future 2nd rounder belongs to Port Adelaide and messing around with swapping future firsts might set you up to lose a trade. GC should finish above them next year but nothing is guaranteed. To get something from Carlton might first require them to start trading back down the order with at least one of their current picks and then see what they have to offer.

If we think Schubert is the real deal we should take him, the fact we have a big collection of not very good talls doesn't mean we don't need a good one. But I suspect we won't quite be convinced by Schubert. I do think Marsh would be strongly considered to take over from Fritsch. He looks a big time talent even if the consistency is lacking in his game.

2.97, he's quick enough to play forward and mid but that's not super fast these days

I saw that he was from Wentworth the other day and he actually reminds me of another Mildura area guy in the late Col Sylvia. He’s a nice mover and has some class. Definitely a well rounded player. Just not sure if he has any special traits.

Stranger things have happened! North did it last year and will be backing themselves to finally climb the ladder this year. But they’d have to be absolutely in love with someone and given their midfield that would have to be either a key tall or a gun small forward. Can’t see them risking what could be a top 5 pick in a much better draft for Schubert or Dovaston.

Harry Kyle looks like he could be absolutely anything once he gets to a club. That combination of athleticism, size and will to run is a good base for a player. Cam Nairn is one of my favourites in the draft. Super clean hands. How often do you see a forward take 16 marks in a game? Just knows where to go to the get the footy.

And every time he gets us

Jin Kim has to be worth a look