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Are we sure this isn’t overplayed? Langford played well for Richmond vfl last year but they took Lalor at 1 and were strongly linked to Smillie. Sinnema played a nice for Casey and there’s not even any indication he’ll be even rookied by us. A recruited might not put much stake in to a vfl coach being pleased with a young kid doing well

Demons trident/locker room speeches: I know there’s skepticism with US sports ideas. Fair enough too. But I love seeing the coaches fired up especially after a big win in the NFL. Why has footy not embraced that? We have cameras in rooms for players injured or half naked but clubs don’t show anything to their fans outside of the song and some generic interviews. Can we get the King fired up post game? We also have a defensive moment/trademark award, but it’s just a social post. Why not make an award for that or similar after a win that includes a presentation of a big Trident like the raptors have below with the cobra and chain. Remember Kynan Brown’s game saving tackle - get that man a red and blue trident!

Despite the less than enthusiastic response to this thread I’m back with some more ideas. Now we have a CEO who isn’t allergic to proactively and a new coach we might get some action. Metro Melbourne: If we do finally get some definitive progress on Caulfield at the AGM (Dec 16) then we should partner will Metro trains for an instructional video featuring some of our players (Gawn, Pickett, Langford?) for a marketing campaign of catching the train from Caulfield to the city and new routes to the MCG (Metro tunnel opening in December). We could then handball the footy over to some North players mid metro tunnel to finish the video on to Arden St. It’s a quick bit of easy sponsored content and could get us in the good books with the government too.

Farrell was the one I thought of. Lindsay is a bit more well rounded for the same age I think. Somewhere between a Farrell and a Mitch Duncan. I do think as he matures and gets more powerful he should add more range and penetration to his boot too. But I like he how weights his kicks, he has nice distance control.

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We need to draft for our new coach and the trends in the game but we don’t need to worry too much about list needs. We need everything!

I’d roll the dice on Farrow, Barker, Oskar Taylor or Mitch Marsh over Sharp.

I don’t think a guy who can’t get a game for the Saints (or even the better alternatives like Worpel level players that are often available) are what you need to bring to the fight against Neale, the Ashcroft’s, Dunkley, Newcombe, Rowell, Tom Green, Serong etc. That said, is Sharp on that level? I don’t really see it. Hands don’t look clean enough and he doesn’t play through contact like a Green and Rowell

Carlton's future 2nd rounder belongs to Port Adelaide and messing around with swapping future firsts might set you up to lose a trade. GC should finish above them next year but nothing is guaranteed. To get something from Carlton might first require them to start trading back down the order with at least one of their current picks and then see what they have to offer.

If we think Schubert is the real deal we should take him, the fact we have a big collection of not very good talls doesn't mean we don't need a good one. But I suspect we won't quite be convinced by Schubert. I do think Marsh would be strongly considered to take over from Fritsch. He looks a big time talent even if the consistency is lacking in his game.

2.97, he's quick enough to play forward and mid but that's not super fast these days

I saw that he was from Wentworth the other day and he actually reminds me of another Mildura area guy in the late Col Sylvia. He’s a nice mover and has some class. Definitely a well rounded player. Just not sure if he has any special traits.

Stranger things have happened! North did it last year and will be backing themselves to finally climb the ladder this year. But they’d have to be absolutely in love with someone and given their midfield that would have to be either a key tall or a gun small forward. Can’t see them risking what could be a top 5 pick in a much better draft for Schubert or Dovaston.

Harry Kyle looks like he could be absolutely anything once he gets to a club. That combination of athleticism, size and will to run is a good base for a player. Cam Nairn is one of my favourites in the draft. Super clean hands. How often do you see a forward take 16 marks in a game? Just knows where to go to the get the footy.

And every time he gets us

Jin Kim has to be worth a look

Most of the top picks have played at Under 16 nationals, played Coates league (or equivalent) in their bottom age under 18 year, possibly even played under 18’s nationals a year early and then frank that form early in the Coates league season to get Twomey and others attention. Clarry didn’t get much of a look in for Bendigo as a 17 year old, got OP over summer so started his 18 year slow and missed out on the national champs, then produced dominant TAC cup form and good VFL performances to be a top 5 pick. Robey got cut from Dandenong at 16, couldn’t even get included in the initial Eastern squad this year, plays local footy (including seniors) then dominates Coates league from mid year. What changed that had these guys missing squads to dominating? That’s the million dollar question. I think it’s fair to assume there was some maturity and commitment with Clarry. If I had to guess with Robey I’d say it’s a kid who’s grown a lot in a short period of time and just suddenly come in to his body. Neither of them were at APS private schools getting the best coaching and being alongside a lot of other draftable kids through the journey either.

Langford will grow in to a strong inside player but I think that part of his game is a little overrated, at least for now. Happy to hold all Kolt stock and see him trained up as a direct replacement for Steele as a defensive running, tackling mid who can hopefully eclipse Steele sooner than later. So yes, I do think there’s a gap for a Viney type. But is that player available in this draft? Greeves looks similar to Langford to me, does his best work as an accumulator despite his huge frame. Sharp is clearly an inside bull, just a question on how good he is. After him the next truly strong inside guy might be Adam Sweid. Cumming, Phillipou, Dovaston are all guys who can give you something at clearances. Honestly I wouldn’t be against taking 2 of them and just rolling them forward, high half forward and on ball.

Kozzie actually played most of his draft year in sanfl reserves too. Except he was 18, Latrelle is about to turn 20 and 2 years post his draft year (although December born). I’m very suspicious on the idea he’s a top 30 pick when it took him until the last round of the sanfl season to get a senior debut. What were Glenelg waiting for? At the same time he clearly has talent and every team is looking for more forward line talent. Gun smalls are just super hard to find. If I had to bet on it I’d say he probably goes in the 20’s because the alternatives aren’t any safer or more talented.

I don’t like his ball use and he didn’t test all that well but he has a wicked change of direction that is a very fun trait if he can pull it off at afl level.

Neither did I and I got crucified for it. His decision making and skills have always been poor and then the game shifted away from his/our style too. That said, I think he’s actually a fraction undervalued now. Great worker, kind of maybe showed some signs of life the last 3 weeks that he could do a role on the wing (at least in rotations). And if he’s not clear best 22 I’d would like to see him get the 6 weeks getting 30+ at Casey that I feel like he missed going straight from 2020 covid practice games to best 23.

Left footed Rivers. Would I take that with a top 10 pick most years - probably not. This year, maybe.

I’m not sure you can hold it against them with Yasmin moving - the AFLW salaries aren’t really conducive to staying away from home - and Port seemed to push Xavier as much as he wanted to leave. Essendon appear to have some kind of DaniDuurs plan to get 3 or even 4 of them together but I’d still take the chances on a Vic Country guy when the rest of the top 10 options are Vic Metro or South Australians. I’d always go with talent knowing you’ll get quality picks back over sub par talent who could just as easily leave and won’t get you a return.

Luke Jackson made his debut in round 2, came back in the side in round 7 and made us better until he got injured. Was instrumental in a flag year 2. Mac Andrew played 17 games in year 2. Ethan Read played 21 games including finals in year 2. He had 13 disposals and 3 goals in his vfl game. He runs a 6.21 2km and 2.92 20m sprint. There’s a track record of guys that athletic and highly rated being able to play quickly. It’s not the standard ruck who you draft and see in 4-5 years.

We just finished 14th and Essendon and North should improve next year. I’d be surprised if we go a long way backwards and Richmond and WC are probably still closer to no good. But stranger things have happened.