DeeSpencer

Look at the hype going over Tom Boyd who's played no AFL games. Michie at least has played 1! But they hype is over the WAFL form and under 18 form and the three years is misleading as he didn't get on the park for the entire first two years.

Nice player. Can find the ball and is a midfielder/forward. Would certainly be happy to get Garry Jnr down. I'd offer pick 40 in this draft for sure. If it's involved in the Polec deal though, Adelaide might like more because I don't see how 40 helps them get Polec really.

Would trade for him just so he doesn't torch us twice a season.

There's a delivery factor to this which upsets me. His last rumour - spoke to a mate. Apparently Andrew Walker.... Who was this mate? How does he know internal workings of the carlton or melbourne FC. If you are just reporting other rumours just say so. "Have heard the Andrew Walker rumour" would actually interest me. I'm happy for all rumours but can people just post whether it's reliable, semi reliable, from facebook or something you just made up. That way we get a sense of whats happening and it can be interesting!

Yeah but players are picking the better clubs which then dilutes the trade value. If Taylor Adams said his preferred club was Melbourne on the saints then GWS could have discussions involving picks 2 and 3. Instead he's gone for Collingwood and Geelong and the best they can do is pick 10. It's a joke. You've made it to the AFL. You've been drafted, then after 2 years you think you've earned the right to pick which club you play for just because you want to go home. I don't like it. It's disrespectful to the club who drafted you. You should take all offers from all clubs and if they all want you go to the one that will trade the most for you.

good for us but they won't do it. Pick 40 to pick 30 maybe but to get from 20 to 10 takes a serious player not a spud

Just check that they are some what reasonable first is all we ask. Posting stuff that's pretty rubbish is wasting all our time

I'd be willing to bet we wont be top 4 within 2 years. It's very hard to make top 4 these days from outside the 8 the year previous and we aren't close to making the 8 next year. There's no need to panic about where Hogan is yet. At least wait until this time next year when he's got a year left on his deal but he also has played some AFL on the G under Paul Roos. At that time I think his manager and he will be much more willing to renegotiate a contract extension. They just don't have any negotiating power off VFL performances with 2 years remaining on the deal. The great hope for us is the Freo either win the flag next year or Pav breaks down and retires and they have to replace him next year whilst Hogan still has a year to run on his contract. West Coast are nicely set with Kennedy and Darling for at least the next few years. But the best bargaining tool we can get is winning and mate ship. We start winning and Hogan is still mates with Viney and Toumpas then he wont go anywhere.

We picked up Matt Jones, Terlich and Clisby with mid, late and rookie picks respectively and they played as many if not more good games in one season than Blease and Tapscott ever have. That said this draft is apparently very shallow and picks higher than 40 might not be worth anything. Sometimes it's better to have Tapscott and Blease for one year to see what they can do than 2 years of a draft pick that wont make it and wont contribute any pressure on the best 22. I'd be open to here what other clubs have any interest in a player for player swap particularly for a true midfielder or true goal kicking or pressure small forward. Could we send Tapscott to the Tigers where Hardwick likes solid body players and get Nahas in return. Not that I particularly rate Nahas at all but if Tapscott offers little maybe it's better to take a guy who at least can kick a goal. I'd also listen for pick upgrade trades ie pick 45 for Tapscott and pick 50 that get us back in as early as possible in the draft. Considering we still have plenty more like Magner, Jetta, Nicholson and Bail to potentially move on we don't want a bunch of useless draft picks in all of their places.

Obvious troll is obvious.

The only thing worse than getting Jolly would be not trading Jamar if we got Jolly. However, personally I think Jamar is a likable guy and decent trainer. I'd keep him around if no one wanted to give us anything for him and make him pressure Spencer and Gawn into some reasonable football. And if we want to keep guys like Sylvia in the future the best way to do that is to stop trading away anyone over 30 so it sends a message you can complete a career at Melbourne.

We all want Hannath back and Ross Lyon loves his mature players but I think with Sandilands, Griffin, Clarke and Kepler as a back up they're last on the list for Jamar.

Well they'll look pretty stupid burning out Tom Hickey. If I was them I'd go hard at Longer and have 2 promising developing rucks so they don't overcook either of them. I think they burnt out McEvoy to a degree. I don't think McEvoy is a star but he'll be better sharing ruck and forward duties with Hale. Both a touch undersized but they compete and a very good around the ground and can play forward.

Geelong should actually consider it. McIntosh may never play again. West is rubbish. Blitz and Vardy are both really good prospects but aren't first ruck guys, at least not for the next couple of years. Leaves them with Dawson Simpson and nothing. If they want to beat Freo in a final they should get a solid body to take away his influence.

We want toughness - then Roos is interested in Lucas, Shepphard, Bootsma and Didak. 4 of the softest going around. Please... With you on this one BH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9EPdxtYiY Lives with Scully. Pretty much I'd say we could give up on any hope of getting him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9EPdxtYiY Still stick to that point?

Yeah and GWS have pick 1 in the PSD and are offering Mumford money that no other club can or will offer, so once again the deal is as good as done. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.

If a guy does a press conference wearing the jumper to me that means its a done deal Technically aren't there 2 days left until Hawthorn definitely don't match Sydneys offer for Franklin? You saying that isn't done yet?

So the worst defensive team in modern history couldn't do with a defensive midfielder. Can't believe this crap. McKenzie will be pushed out when we have 10 midfielders who can run and tackle and do something else. Right now we have Jones, Viney and maybe Trengove. McKenzie is our third best midfielder. Deal with it people.

Why not? Which one of these kids are clearly better than him? None of them will be able to provide the instant injection of quality that Shiel will next year either. Shiel fulfills everything we want about pick 2. He can win the ball inside or out. Has 33 games under his belt. Does the hard stuff but also finishes off with disposal and goals. Would be perfect.

Hence my trade or re-sign Frawley thread. When a club puts up an unmatchable offer for Frawley next year all we get is an end of first round pick. There's an article on melbournefc quoting Frawley saying it's time the players step up. Well it's time you step up James. Offer him the big contract 5 years 3.5-4 million and tell him he either signs it or we look to trade him now.

Director of coaching mentoring the new senior coach and probably getting involved in development in some role I'd hope. Use his coaching skills and expertise not stick him in administration.

Who were the big bodied midfielders Richmond had when they took Cotchin? Shane Tuck? Freo completely rebuild their midfield moving Mundy in their and grabbing Barlow.

Would love this. Would take the pick 2 to Collingwood for 10 and 11, trade 11 for Myers and use 10 on Kolodjashnij